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Re: File vault, firmware password, etc

From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: File vault, firmware password, etc
Date 2014-03-03 16:25 +0000
Organization People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
Message-ID <bnjomtFkk8nU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References <1lhxa48.1f825xadchjy0N%dcohenspam@talktalk.net> <bnjdsqFii1pU1@mid.individual.net> <bnjkg2Fk228U2@mid.individual.net> <slrnlh9a6u.8tb.g.kreme@oswin.local>

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On 2014-03-03, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <bnjkg2Fk228U2@mid.individual.net> 
>   Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-03-03, Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2014-03-03, Daniel Cohen <dcohenspam@talktalk.net> wrote:
>>>> Firmware Password. This prevents any means of accessing the drive other
>>>> than a normal login. Can the drive be read if it is removed? Is that why
>>>> some people use both File Vault and a firmware password?
>>>
>>> Prevents acces to the machine itself. one cannot boot into single-user
>>> mode or boot fram an external disk, CD, DVD or USB stick.
>
>> It can, however be bypassed by changing the hardware configuration (for
>> instance removing / adding RAM). Someone with physical access to the
>> machine can overcome it.
>
> Yep.
>
>> Also, someone with root access to the machine can read the firmware
>> password easily with the nvram command-line utility.
>
> Is that still true? I thought that was no longer the case.

For newer machines, I believe that's true; but for older systems...

> However, Filevault 2 completely protects the data on the disk. There is no
> way to get to it without the password or the recovery key.

Yep, encrypting the data is the way to go.

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File vault, firmware password, etc dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2014-03-03 08:57 +0000
  Re: File vault, firmware password, etc Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2014-03-03 13:20 +0000
    Re: File vault, firmware password, etc Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-03 15:13 +0000
      Re: File vault, firmware password, etc Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-03 16:07 +0000
        Re: File vault, firmware password, etc me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-03-03 16:19 +0000
          Re: File vault, firmware password, etc dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2014-03-03 17:57 +0000
            Re: File vault, firmware password, etc me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-03-04 00:03 +0000
              Re: File vault, firmware password, etc dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2014-03-04 12:08 +0000
                Re: File vault, firmware password, etc me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-03-04 19:31 +0000
                Re: File vault, firmware password, etc dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2014-03-04 20:46 +0000
                Re: File vault, firmware password, etc Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2014-03-04 21:41 +0000
                Re: File vault, firmware password, etc nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-04 17:01 -0500
                Re: File vault, firmware password, etc dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2014-03-04 23:09 +0000
                Re: File vault, firmware password, etc Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-04 22:06 +0000
                Re: File vault, firmware password, etc Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-04 22:25 +0000
                Re: File vault, firmware password, etc billy@MIX.COM - 2014-03-04 22:39 +0000
                Re: File vault, firmware password, etc Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-04 23:26 +0000
                Re: File vault, firmware password, etc billy@MIX.COM - 2014-03-05 00:10 +0000
                Re: File vault, firmware password, etc billy@MIX.COM - 2014-03-04 21:48 +0000
                Re: File vault, firmware password, etc dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2014-03-04 23:09 +0000
        Re: File vault, firmware password, etc Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-03 16:25 +0000
      Re: File vault, firmware password, etc billy@MIX.COM - 2014-03-03 17:05 +0000
        Re: File vault, firmware password, etc Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-03 17:10 +0000
        Re: File vault, firmware password, etc billy@MIX.COM - 2014-03-05 18:22 +0000
          Re: File vault, firmware password, etc Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-05 18:28 +0000
    Re: File vault, firmware password, etc dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2014-03-03 17:57 +0000
      Re: File vault, firmware password, etc Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2014-03-03 19:11 +0000
  Re: File vault, firmware password, etc Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-04 17:10 -0500

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