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Re: Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens

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On 10/09/2017 03:06 PM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Mon, 9 Oct 2017 14:00:18 -0400) it happened bitrex
> <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote in <SOOCB.1038$y63.553@fx14.iad>:
> 
>> On 10/08/2017 04:45 PM, pcdhobbs@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Sunday, October 8, 2017 at 4:41:07 PM UTC-4, Dave M wrote:
>>>> Anyone have any experience or have colleagues who have experience using the
>>>> Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens such as those being sold on the evil
>>>> auction place?  The one I've looked at is item number:262955348183 (Model
>>>> T962).
>>>>
>>>> My eyes have become the major challenge to producing the one- or two-off
>>>> projects, since many of the parts that are available today are only made in
>>>> SMD packages.   I realize that placing them onto the board still remains a
>>>> challenge, but at least with a proper oven, I won't have to hold a soldering
>>>> iron steady enough to build the boards.
>>>>
>>>> This model seems to be big enough to handle all the boards that I want to
>>>> make, so that is a plus.  Just wondering if this model produces good boards
>>>> with no unsoldered areas, damaged components, etc.  If it can consistently
>>>> produce good boards, I'll take a chance on one of them.  Reading the
>>>> Chinglish instructions is scary enough , but maybe I can figure it out well
>>>> enough to make it work.
>>>>
>>>> Hope someone can give good advice
>>>>
>>>> Dave M
>>>
>>> I use a piece of half-inch aluminum jig plate on top of an old-timey Corning ceramic hot plate, the kind used in chem labs.
>>>
>>> Works great and takes up a lot less space than an oven.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Phil Hobbs
>>>
>>
>> How hot do you have to get a SOIC generally before worrying about
>> physically damaging the package/die/bond wires etc?
>>
>> I've used a regular heat gun on a low setting to do "reflow" from time
>> to time in a pinch, moving it around quickly so as not to concentrate
>> the air blast in any one place for too long; it's always a bit of an
>> anxiety-producing experience but as far as I can tell I've never had a
>> part obviously fail because of it
> 
> I have seen a youtube video of a Chinese workshop that replaced memory chips in iphones
> for bigger ones with a heat gun... While U wait..
> 

Well, I can't say I'm shocked!

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Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens "Dave M" <dgminala@mediacombb.net> - 2017-10-08 15:40 -0500
  Re: Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-10-08 13:45 -0700
    Re: Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-10-08 23:52 +0100
    Re: Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-10-08 23:18 +0000
      Re: Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-10-08 16:34 -0700
      Re: Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-10-09 13:05 -0700
    Re: Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-10-09 14:00 -0400
      Re: Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-10-09 19:06 +0000
        Re: Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-10-09 15:47 -0400
        Re: Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens krw@notreal.com - 2017-10-09 21:28 -0400
          Re: Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens John Devereux <john@devereux.me.uk> - 2017-10-10 08:00 +0100
            Re: Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens krw@notreal.com - 2017-10-10 21:42 -0400
      Re: Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2017-10-09 14:16 -0500
      Re: Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-10-10 11:07 +0000
        Re: Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens aioe usenet <hirni47@yahoo.com> - 2017-10-12 05:00 +0700
  Re: Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2017-10-08 14:17 -0700
  Re: Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens Gerhard Hoffmann <gerhard@hoffmann-hochfrequenz.de> - 2017-10-08 23:26 +0200
  Re: Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens Neon John <no@never.com> - 2017-10-08 17:54 -0400
    Re: Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-10-09 14:17 -0400
      Re: Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens krw@notreal.com - 2017-10-09 21:35 -0400
  Re: Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2017-10-08 15:37 -0700
  Re: Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-10-08 15:44 -0700
    Re: Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-10-08 16:01 -0700
      Re: Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-10-08 16:45 -0700
        Re: Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-10-08 16:49 -0700
  Re: Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens Joe Chisolm <jchisolm6@earthlink.net> - 2017-10-09 11:41 -0500
  Re: Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2017-10-09 14:13 -0500
  Re: Chinese-made reflow soldering ovens speff <spehro@gmail.com> - 2017-10-12 00:32 -0700

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