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| From | wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.theory |
| Subject | Re: Addressing duffer-speak |
| Date | 2025-11-04 05:22 +0800 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <bdaff965df9b5ee3d72dffb2ee5878bb60039dc9.camel@gmail.com> (permalink) |
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On Mon, 2025-11-03 at 14:31 -0600, olcott wrote:
> On 11/3/2025 2:01 PM, wij wrote:
> > On Mon, 2025-11-03 at 13:57 -0600, olcott wrote:
> > > On 11/3/2025 1:52 PM, wij wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 2025-11-03 at 13:37 -0600, olcott wrote:
> > > > > On 11/3/2025 1:34 PM, wij wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon, 2025-11-03 at 13:27 -0600, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This might just be beyond your intellectual capacity.
> > > > > > > Claude AI, ChatGPT 5.0, Grok and Gemini could all pay
> > > > > > > 100% complete attention to every single detail.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That may simply be too much for you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > int D()
> > > > > > > {
> > > > > > > int Halt_Status = H(D);
> > > > > > > if (Halt_Status)
> > > > > > > HERE: goto HERE;
> > > > > > > return Halt_Status;
> > > > > > > }
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You seems not to understand what your D says.
> > > > >
> > > > > IT IS NOT ABOUT WHAT D SAYS
> > > > > IT IS ABOUT THE EXACT EXECUTION TRACE OF D SIMULATED BY H
> > > > > DO YOU KNOW WHAT AN EXECUTION TRACE IS?
> > > > >
> > > > > IT IS NOT ABOUT WHAT D SAYS
> > > > > IT IS ABOUT THE EXACT EXECUTION TRACE OF D SIMULATED BY H
> > > > > DO YOU KNOW WHAT AN EXECUTION TRACE IS?
> > > > >
> > > > > IT IS NOT ABOUT WHAT D SAYS
> > > > > IT IS ABOUT THE EXACT EXECUTION TRACE OF D SIMULATED BY H
> > > > > DO YOU KNOW WHAT AN EXECUTION TRACE IS?
> > > > >
> > > > > IT IS NOT ABOUT WHAT D SAYS
> > > >
> > > > Then, what does D says?
> > > > Why you post a false report?
> > > >
> > >
> > > If you had any attention span at all you would
> > > see that when D is simulated by H then D doesn't
> > > get to say anything. D remains stuck in recursive
> > > simulation never getting past its first line.
> >
> > So, the H(D) in D never returns ?
> >
>
> *D simulated by H remains stuck in recursive simulation*
>
> I have been proving this ten times a day every single
> day for three years. If you had any idea what an execution
> trace is you would have immediately known that.
>
> H(D) does return because
If H(D) does return, what does your post mean:
int D()
{
int Halt_Status = H(D); // <---- Does this H(D) return?
if (Halt_Status)
HERE: goto HERE;
return Halt_Status;
}
*THIS IS THE KEY MOST IMPORTANT UNAMBIGUOUS STATEMENT*
D simulated by H cannot possibly reach its
own simulated "return" statement.
Deception?
I had asked 3 times, you kept dodging or never get to understand.
Answer the question: What does the H(D) in D's definition return (and what value)
or not return?
> it is as smart as Claude AI,
> ChatGPT 5.0, Grok, and Gemini and can directly see
> the trivial non-halting behavior pattern.
>
> H simulates D that calls H
> that simulates D that calls H
> that simulates D that calls H
> that simulates D that calls H
> that simulates D that calls H...
>
> Do people that come to comp.theory typically not
> know ANYTHING about actual computer programming?
You don't realize you are CS idiot in computer programming.
> > int D()
> > {
> > int Halt_Status = H(D);
> > if (Halt_Status)
> > HERE: goto HERE;
> > return Halt_Status;
> > }
> >
> > You seem to not even understand what you typed.
> >
>
>
>
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Re: Plonkers Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2025-11-02 02:12 +0000
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Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 22:12 +0800
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 23:23 +0800
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 14:29 -0600
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Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 07:57 -0600
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Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 08:09 -0600
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Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 09:12 -0600
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Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 14:31 -0600
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 16:42 -0500
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2025-11-02 14:19 +0000
Re: "duffer speak" ??? Mike can't be dishonest so what is left ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 08:42 -0600
Re: Plonkers Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2025-11-02 07:10 +0000
Addressing duffer-speak olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 07:47 -0600
Re: Addressing duffer-speak wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 22:19 +0800
Re: Addressing duffer-speak olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 10:32 -0600
Re: Addressing duffer-speak wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-11-04 00:42 +0800
Re: Addressing duffer-speak olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 11:18 -0600
Re: Addressing duffer-speak wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-11-04 01:33 +0800
Re: Addressing duffer-speak olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 12:00 -0600
Re: Addressing duffer-speak wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-11-04 02:13 +0800
Re: Addressing duffer-speak olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 12:30 -0600
Re: Addressing duffer-speak wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-11-04 03:09 +0800
Re: Addressing duffer-speak olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 13:16 -0600
Re: Addressing duffer-speak wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-11-04 03:23 +0800
Re: Addressing duffer-speak olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 13:27 -0600
Re: Addressing duffer-speak wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-11-04 03:34 +0800
Re: Addressing duffer-speak olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 13:37 -0600
Re: Addressing duffer-speak wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-11-04 03:52 +0800
Re: Addressing duffer-speak olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 13:57 -0600
Re: Addressing duffer-speak wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-11-04 04:01 +0800
Re: Addressing duffer-speak olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 14:31 -0600
Re: Addressing duffer-speak wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-11-04 05:22 +0800
Re: Addressing duffer-speak olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 15:32 -0600
Re: Addressing duffer-speak Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-11-03 22:38 +0000
Re: Addressing duffer-speak "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 15:25 -0800
Re: Addressing duffer-speak wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-11-04 19:40 +0800
Re: Addressing duffer-speak --- head games olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-04 06:31 -0600
Re: Addressing duffer-speak --- head games dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-11-04 07:53 -0500
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