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Re: Reaction against RDBMS?

From Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com>
Newsgroups comp.databases
Subject Re: Reaction against RDBMS?
Date 2013-01-25 21:27 +0100
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On 01/23/2013 03:05 AM, Aaron W. Hsu wrote:
> Robert Klemme wrote:
>
>> Yes: not all applications need the strict consistency rules (ACID) which
>> typical RDBMS implementations of TX handling provide and not all
>> applications need immediate access to all basic data fields (i.e.
>> retrieval of complete documents is OK for many applications or even more
>> efficient).  By abandoning these more performance can be achieved and
>> replication becomes easier just to name .  So NoSQL database have real
>> benefits for particular use cases (same as RDBMS have as well - just
>> other use cases).
>
> Okay, thanks for the analysis. How would you compare component files
> (datatypes which are implicitly serialized to the filesystem but which
> appear just as regular datatypes in the language once loaded), columnar
> databases (such as VectorNova's RDBMS), and NoSQL sort of databases?

I don't have enough experience with all of these to make an informed 
comparison.

> I also
> recall some databases going through a lot of effort to make XML handling go
> hand-in-hand with the Relational model. I tend to think of XML objects as
> complete, structured documents, so I immediately thought of that when you
> mentioned the whole document retrieval method. Do you think this is a
> misguided idea (mixing XML with the relational model)? Do you think it's a
> completely different use case than what NoSQL is good for?

Well, as you said: RDBMS with XML support can really do both - tables 
and structured documents.  I haven't seriously worked with XML feature 
in RDBMS to judge fitness of this approach.  It does seem to be a 
general approach to include non typical data types into RDBMS so there 
seems to be some need for this in the market - or at least vendors 
believe there is.

Kind regards

	robert

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Reaction against RDBMS? "Aaron W.  Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> - 2013-01-21 15:11 -0500
  Re: Reaction against RDBMS? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2013-01-21 21:40 +0100
    Re: Reaction against RDBMS? "Aaron W.  Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> - 2013-01-21 23:54 -0500
      Re: Reaction against RDBMS? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2013-01-22 23:17 +0100
        Re: Reaction against RDBMS? "Aaron W.  Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> - 2013-01-22 21:05 -0500
          Re: Reaction against RDBMS? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2013-01-25 21:27 +0100

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