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| From | colonel_hack@yahoo.com |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.sys.raspberry-pi |
| Subject | Re: Jazelle? |
| Date | 2016-07-22 14:04 -0700 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2016, A. Dumas wrote:
> Yes, all built-in and library functions are word-capitalised ("PascalCase").
> I'm OK with that.
Yeah, it really wouldn't be hard to get used to.
> However, I still don't like the square brackets.
That seems like it was the main thing I didn't like about the syntax. I
was used to reduce's syntax at the time but that's back a bit. I might not
like it either now (Oh, hey, there's a raspberry pi version of reduce.
There, that keeps this on topic :-)
> What seemed awkward to me in your example is the implied equation to
> zero (might be handy actually) and no indication of which variable to
> solve for (but obvious in this case with only x).
I'm enough used to the implied zero that it seems natural, I think maple
and reduce might allow it also. derive assumes =0 but if you have more
than one variable it asks ``solve variable: x'' where the x can be changed.
In maxima:
(%i1) x^2+x*y+y^2;
2 2
(%o1) y + x y + x
(%i2) solve(%);
solve: more unknowns than equations.
Unknowns given :
[y, x]
Equations given:
2 2
[y + x y + x ]
-- an error. To debug this try: debugmode(true);
(%i3) solve(%o1,x);
(sqrt(3) %i + 1) y (sqrt(3) %i - 1) y
(%o3) [x = - ------------------, x = ------------------]
2 2
(%i4) solve(%o1=12,x);
2 2
sqrt(3) sqrt(16 - y ) + y sqrt(3) sqrt(16 - y ) - y
(%o4) [x = - -------------------------, x = -------------------------]
2 2
The maxima error message does seem a bit big iron, not like a modern
release product.
My main concern, with the implied =0, would be if you were using it
educationally is that it blurs the distiction between an expression and an
equation, something that gives some people trouble in algebra 101.
Ron
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