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Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox

Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Date 2017-08-22 20:27 -0700
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Subject Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox
From "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net>

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On Tuesday, August 22, 2017 at 6:41:51 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 22, 2017 at 7:38:35 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, August 22, 2017 at 12:59:57 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> On 8/22/17 10:06 AM, kenseto wrote:
> >>>>> On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 4:56:54 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>> On 8/21/17 9:32 AM, kenseto wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 8:44:52 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Sunday, August 20, 2017 at 7:21:06 PM UTC-4, Paparios wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> El domingo, 20 de agosto de 2017, 15:32:35 (UTC-3), kenseto  escribió:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, August 20, 2017 at 11:11:20 AM UTC-4, Paparios wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> El domingo, 20 de agosto de 2017, 11:48:00 (UTC-3), kenseto  escribió:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, August 19, 2017 at 3:59:41 PM UTC-4, Paparios wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You snipped the second part of my post:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The situation for the observer with the ladder is different. For him the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ladder
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> has the same length it had before moving, but it will pass through the barn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> unharmed, since the doors for that observer do not close at the same time
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (due to relativity of simultaneity)”.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> But you said according to the barn observer the pole is completely
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> inside the barn briefly with both doors closed simultaneously. This
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> is only possible if the pole is materially contracted.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, the barn observer sees the pole being shorter. That does not mean the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> pole changed its length. What the barn observer sees is the geometrical
> >>>>>>>>>>>> projection of the pole over his location. It is a matter of perspective.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> In that case, your claim that the pole can be trapped in the barn with
> >>>>>>>>>>> both doors closed simultaneously is a case claim. What you mean is that
> >>>>>>>>>>> the geometric projection length of the pole can fit into the barn with
> >>>>>>>>>>> both doors closed simultaneously......is that what you mean??????
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> 1) The observer riding with the pole can testify a) that the pole did not
> >>>>>>>>>> change its length during its pass through the barn; b) that just before the
> >>>>>>>>>> front of the pole reached the output door, the door closed and opened very
> >>>>>>>>>> fast; c) that just after the tail of the pole passed through the entrance
> >>>>>>>>>> door, that door closed and opened very fast. This clearly means both doors
> >>>>>>>>>> did not closed and opened at the same time and so obviously the pole did not
> >>>>>>>>>> crash with either door.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> I am not talking about the pole observer. I am talking about the barn observer.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> 2) The observer on the ground of the barn can testify a) he saw the pole
> >>>>>>>>>> entering the barn and leaving the barn; b) he saw both doors simul taneously
> >>>>>>>>>> closing and opening while the pole was inside the barn. This clearly means
> >>>>>>>>>> the pole appeared to be shorter for the barn observer, since he did not see
> >>>>>>>>>> the pole crashing against any of the doors.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> So assertions are your argument???? The barn observer cannot testify that
> >>>>>>>>> he saw both doors
> >>>>>>>>> simultaneously closing and opening while the pole
> >>>>>>>>> was inside the barn. Why? Because this means material contraction which
> >>>>>>>>> you denied it existed.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Seto, this is your style. You simply assert that things cannot happen
> >>>>>>>> unless they happen the way you think they do, and you've never learned
> >>>>>>>> alternative ways that you haven't envisioned.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I was taught that a larger object cannot fit into a smaller container.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> And if you were taught that the length of an object is independent of
> >>>>>> its motion relative to the container, then you were taught WRONG.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> It is you who is wrong......a 4” ball will not be able to pass through
> >>>>> a 2” hole no matter how you try.
> >>>> 
> >>>> The size of the 2" hole depends on the reference frame.
> >>>> Same for the ball.
> >>>> Somehow you’re just not getting this.
> >>> 
> >>> So are you saying that from the ball’s point of view the hole get larger
> >>> so it can get through it and from the hole point of view the ball gets
> >>> gets smaller so the ball can pass through it? I don’t think so. I think
> >>> you are full of shit.
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> Ken, you've never learned any of this. Not one stick. 
> > 
> > You are full of shit.....with my example your RoS cannot rescue you. Why?
> > Because there is no fucking doors that open and close non-simultaneously. 
> 
> And you think that length contraction always involves simultaneous closing
> and opening of doors. 
> Ha. 
> 


Actually id does. Length measurement is directly related to marking the two ends of an object simultaneously. 

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                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 08:31 -0500
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-25 08:17 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-28 07:32 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-28 10:12 -0500
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-28 08:41 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-28 11:13 -0500
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-28 09:48 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 16:03 +0000
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-29 08:12 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-08-29 12:46 -0500
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-29 14:40 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-29 14:49 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 14:13 -0500
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-01 01:08 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Bídníkùm Laterá <bila@wehia.ui> - 2017-09-01 08:21 +0000
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 14:13 -0500
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-08-31 15:05 -0500
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 15:14 -0500
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-08-31 16:31 -0500
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 16:58 -0500
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-08-31 19:12 -0500
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 14:53 -0500
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 14:54 -0500
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-09-01 05:26 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 14:48 -0500
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-01 14:51 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com - 2017-09-03 19:06 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-03 23:49 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com - 2017-09-04 05:09 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-04 05:52 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-09-04 07:00 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-04 08:02 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-09-04 08:20 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-04 11:01 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-09-05 06:21 -0700
                Cretin Ken Sito at work "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-09-05 06:29 -0700
                Re: Cretin Ken Sito at work mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-05 06:50 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-09-05 06:08 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 09:05 -0500
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-09-05 08:39 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-09-05 14:05 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 16:10 -0500
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-09-06 07:22 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 13:10 -0500
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-09-06 11:10 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 15:34 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-22 16:05 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 08:00 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-21 09:46 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 10:02 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-21 13:30 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 14:00 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-21 13:05 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 13:56 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-21 14:02 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 14:25 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-21 14:47 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 16:24 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-21 16:29 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 18:54 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-21 19:24 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 04:17 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-22 04:42 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 07:23 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 11:45 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 15:22 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-22 23:35 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-08-21 21:00 -0500
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-21 19:26 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Larry Harson <johnmcandrew66@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 17:35 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-22 20:26 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 04:14 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-20 18:42 +0000
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-20 23:18 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 11:43 +0000
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-21 05:22 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 12:33 +0000
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-21 06:34 -0700
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 13:51 +0000
                Re: Why is there more than one explanation for the Twin Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 19:19 +0000
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