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Re: Didactic "white lies"

Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Date 2019-02-04 03:35 -0800
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Subject Re: Didactic "white lies"
From Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com>

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On Sunday, 3 February 2019 20:46:58 UTC, Keith Thompson  wrote:
> 
> By telling this "white" lie, you help perpetuate the confusion about
> the relationship between arrays and pointers in C.  I've had to
> (well, I've chosen to) spend way too much time clearing up this
> confusion, usually with a reference to section 6 of the comp.lang.c
> FAQ.
> 
If you never simplify, it's often too hard for most students to understand.
You wouldn't try to teach general relativity on a primary school time
and motion exercise, after all.
> 
> At what point in the course can your students safely assume that
> you're no longer lying to them?
> 
You can't. An example is the experiment that shows that air is about 20%
oxygen. A candle is lit on a boat, over which is place a bell jar,
resting on a tray of water. The oxygen in the sir is used up, and the candle
goes out, and the water level in the bell jar rises.
Except that most of the effect is from the heat of the candle forcing 
expanded air out of the bell jar. The air inside the bell jar then
cools.

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Re: Didactic "white lies" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-02-03 12:46 -0800
  Re: Didactic "white lies" "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2019-02-03 23:40 +0100
  Re: Didactic "white lies" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2019-02-04 03:35 -0800
    Re: Didactic "white lies" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-02-04 12:01 -0800
    Re: Didactic "white lies" James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-02-04 12:33 -0800
      Re: Didactic "white lies" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2019-02-05 01:37 -0800
        Re: Didactic "white lies" Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2019-02-05 08:56 -0700
          Re: Didactic "white lies" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2019-02-05 08:03 -0800
            Re: Didactic "white lies" scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2019-02-05 16:39 +0000
            Re: Didactic "white lies" James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-02-05 10:35 -0800
              Re: Didactic "white lies" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2019-02-05 12:34 -0800
        Re: Didactic "white lies" James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-02-05 10:31 -0800
    Re: Didactic "white lies" John Bode <jfbode1029@gmail.com> - 2019-02-05 08:55 -0800

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