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| Date | 2018-05-08 02:46 -0700 |
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| Message-ID | <a613025b-e18b-4527-a7ee-b0f41cd35205@googlegroups.com> (permalink) |
| Subject | Re: Who wants to control people more: American Christians or Muslims? |
| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 2:42:41 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> On 5/6/18 9:09 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 2:56:41 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> >> On 5/5/18 1:49 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >>> On 2018-05-05 20:46:59 +0000, Snit said:
> >>>
> >>>> On 5/5/18 1:42 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >>>>> On 2018-05-05 20:16:53 +0000, Snit said:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 5/5/18 1:08 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>> You are backing racial quotas of a sort...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I'm pointing out how they undoubtedly *must* be forced to look
> >>>>>>>>> at things in a way that you and I will never have to if they
> >>>>>>>>> want to live through the day.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> They no more have to judge people by the color of their skin
> >>>>>>>> than colleges and employers have to with affirmative action.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> No one has to do anything... but prudence suggests that it would
> >>>>>>> be in their interest to do so if they want to live when policing
> >>>>>>> in the high crime areas.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> One black person is not responsible for the actions of another.
> >>>>>> You are trying to justify police shooting someone based on the
> >>>>>> color of their skin.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> LOL! Where do you believe I 'justified' that?
> >>>>>
> >>>> Sigh. OK, you are back to your game playing nonsense... you JUST
> >>>> said how they have to target blacks differently
> >>>>
> >>> I used the wrod "target"?! Where?
> >>>
> >> My level of interest in your word games: zero.
> >>
> > The games were all yours, Mr. Pathological Liar.
>
> You went back to your games where you demand I quote back to you what
> you have said... and then denying you said it because I spoke of what I
> disagree with in your views but did not use your exact words.
>
> Even worse you do this AS you lie about what I have said, in this case
> claiming I "equated policing in high crime areas with job/college
> issues". You made that up in response to my noting I do not back
> grouping people by color in either situation, which does not in any way
> imply the two situations are equal.
>
> But back to your support of judging people by the color of their skin,
> and you being OK with this in situations where black people are shot!
>
> http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0141854
> ——
> The results provide evidence of a significant bias in the killing of
> unarmed black Americans relative to unarmed white Americans, in that the
> probability of being {black, unarmed, and shot by police} is about 3.49
> times the probability of being {white, unarmed, and shot by police} on
> average. Furthermore, the results of multi-level modeling show that
> there exists significant heterogeneity across counties in the extent of
> racial bias in police shootings, with some counties showing relative
> risk ratios of 20 to 1 or more. Finally, analysis of police shooting
> data as a function of county-level predictors suggests that racial bias
> in police shootings is most likely to emerge in police departments in
> larger metropolitan counties with low median incomes and a sizable
> portion of black residents, especially when there is high financial
> inequality in that county. There is no relationship between county-level
> racial bias in police shootings and crime rates (even race-specific
> crime rates), meaning that the racial bias observed in police shootings
> in this data set is not explainable as a response to local-level crime
> rates.
> ——
>
> Steve Carroll
> -----
> What does that last statement tell you? In such areas, given
> that stats show a police officer is 18.9 times more likely
> to be killed by a black male (who, at 6% commit 42% of
> police officer deaths), you wouldn't think it prudent for
> them to exhibit a "bias" if they want to come home from work
> that night? It's a war zone, the things we'd all like to
> believe should be done can't be done, there'd be no one left
> alive to do them.
> -----
> I'm pointing out how they undoubtedly *must* be forced to
> look at things in a way that you and I will never have to if
> they want to live through the day.
> -----
> > They no more have to judge people by the color of
> > their skin than colleges and employers have to
> > with affirmative action.
> No one has to do anything... but prudence suggests
> that it would be in their interest to do so if they
> want to live when policing in the high crime areas.
> -----
> > You are STILL backing judging people by the color
> > of their skin
> I'm just recognizing that police officers in these
> high crime areas don't have the luxury not to.
> -----
>
> That is you, Carroll, noting your support for targeting people based on
> the color of their skin in determining who to shoot. You can cry and
> whine and lie when faced with your own words, as you did during your
> tantrum over a black person being shown as an example of healthy
> masculinity, but you still are responsible for your words.
>
> You have always shown racist tendencies but you used to be better at
> hiding them... you used to want to be the KKK member who never had his
> hood lifted. Now, perhaps based on Trump's open bigotry and how he has
> made it more acceptable in this nation to be a bigot, you have a harder
> time keeping your hood on. Or maybe you just do not care to.
>
> --
> Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
> cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
> somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
>
> They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
>
> <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
It was MuahMan who got busted using lots of nyms time and time again, and these are 'people' who come basically out of the blue directly into threads where he was being ripped apart... continuously for years.
So he changed his story to responding to any sock of his. Time to blame anything but Linux!
Just look at MuahMan's programs and look at nospam's, there is nothing for us to learn from a small time player like MuahMan. But whatever, let him keep making a cretin of himself. It is not like anyone believes him.
Proof MuahMan accuses everyone of being Snit http://sandman.net/files/snit_circus.png. Everyone is MuahMan -- the oldest gag in the book.
I have known infants who argue better than MuahMan does.
--
Top Ten Ways MuahMan Trolls!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhOfBmWwCVY
http://www.5z8.info/horse-slaughter_w8c4en_launchexe
Jonas Eklundh
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