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Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime

Subject Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime
Newsgroups alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism, alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d, talk.politics.guns
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Followup-To alt.fan.rush-limbaurgh, alt.socially.liberalism, alt.athieism, alt.fucknozzles, alt.poltics.democrats.d, talk.poltics.guns
From Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con>
Message-ID <XzhWM.8345$igw9.1670@fx37.iad> (permalink)
Organization Forte - www.forteinc.com
Date 2023-10-13 13:15 -0700

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On 10/13/2023 4:48 AM, Attila wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 12:37:54 -0700, Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con>
> in alt.fucknozzles with message-id
> <mEYUM.2920$rEF.782@fx47.iad> wrote:
> 
>> No, you are not an "accessory" to any crime if you know someone is an
>> undocumented immigrant and don't report the person to immigration authorities.
>> You would not be an "accessory" for two reasons:
>>
>> 1.  Unlawful presence is not a crime.  If you know someone is unlawfully
>>      present, that is not knowledge of any crime.
> 
> There has been no court conviction but there has been a
> violation of federal law.

A *civil* violation.

> If you knew of a bank robber but
> did not report them would that be the same thing?

No, because bank robbery is a crime.  Unlawful presence is not a crime.  There 
is no victim.

> 
>>
>> 2.  Accessory to a crime means aiding, abetting or encouraging the criminal
>>      activity.  Merely being aware of something someone has done is none of that.
> 
> You don't need to be an accessory to report unlawful
> activity.

There is no duty to report unlawful presence.

>>
>>
>> It's settled:  knowledge of an alien's unlawful presence does not in any way
>> make one an accessory to a crime.
> 
> But such presence is a violation of federal law.

A civil violation.  There is no victim.

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Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> - 2023-10-09 12:37 -0700
  Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Klaus  Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�ter.@gmail.com> - 2023-10-09 12:51 -0700
    Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Skeeter <Skeeterweed@proton.me> - 2023-10-09 14:29 -0600
      Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Michael A Terrell <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> - 2023-10-09 13:33 -0700
      Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Klaus  Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�ter.@gmail.com> - 2023-10-09 15:16 -0700
  Anyone entering the country without authorization is a criminal. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�ter.@gmail.com> - 2023-10-09 13:15 -0700
    Re: Anyone entering the country without authorization is a criminal. Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> - 2023-10-09 21:27 +0000
      Re: Anyone entering the country without authorization is a criminal. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�ter.@gmail.com> - 2023-10-09 15:17 -0700
      Re: Anyone entering the country without authorization is a criminal. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2023-10-10 07:38 -0500
        Re: Anyone entering the country without authorization is a criminal. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�ter.@gmail.com> - 2023-10-10 07:24 -0700
    Re: Anyone entering the country without authorization is a criminal. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2023-10-09 14:51 -0700
      Re: Anyone entering the country without authorization is a criminal. Gerald <nowomr@protonmail.com> - 2023-10-09 23:33 +0000
  Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> - 2023-10-13 13:15 -0700
    Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Klaus  Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�ter.@gmail.com> - 2023-10-13 15:38 -0700
      Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2023-10-16 10:01 -0500
        Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Phil Omdahl <jaques.idiot.pal@number1> - 2023-10-16 08:44 -0700
          Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Klaus  Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�ter.@gmail.com> - 2023-10-16 09:36 -0700
        Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Mark Wieber <chronic.loser@dole-scroungers.of.taft> - 2023-10-16 08:50 -0700
          Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Klaus  Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�ter.@gmail.com> - 2023-10-16 09:37 -0700
          Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2023-10-17 17:43 -0400
        Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2023-10-16 17:04 -0400
          Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Paul Jackson <pj@costco.con> - 2023-10-16 15:31 -0700
          Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2023-10-17 07:55 -0500
            Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Robert Youngdale <another.jaques@idiot> - 2023-10-17 06:40 -0700
            Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2023-10-17 11:17 -0400
              Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Charlie Glock <tpragna1900O@gmail.com> - 2023-10-17 08:25 -0700
                Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2023-10-17 17:46 -0400
                Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Skeeter <Skeeterweed@proton.me> - 2023-10-18 11:14 -0600
                Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Michael A Terrell <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> - 2023-10-18 10:27 -0700
                Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Michael A Terrell <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> - 2023-10-18 12:19 -0700
                Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Michael A Terrell <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> - 2023-10-18 16:31 -0700
              Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> - 2023-10-17 17:46 +0000
                Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Skeeter <Skeeterweed@proton.me> - 2023-10-18 11:15 -0600
              Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2023-10-18 07:44 -0500
                Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2023-10-18 10:52 -0400
                Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Robert Youngdale <another.jaques@idiot> - 2023-10-18 08:02 -0700
          Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2023-10-17 17:45 -0400
        Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2023-10-16 14:15 -0700
        Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2023-10-17 16:23 -0400
          Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2023-10-17 15:01 -0700
    Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Michael A Terrell <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> - 2023-10-13 16:54 -0700
    Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> - 2023-10-14 12:11 -0700
      Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2023-10-15 10:15 -0400
        Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Al-Qassam Brigades <aq@gaza.int> - 2023-10-15 10:48 -0700
          Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2023-10-15 15:15 -0400
            Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Paul Ragna <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2023-10-15 12:51 -0700
              Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2023-10-16 10:13 -0500
                Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Paul Ragna <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2023-10-16 08:35 -0700
            Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2023-10-15 16:15 -0700
            Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2023-10-16 10:12 -0500
              Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime nickname unavailable <"because_\\shitbag\\_was_taken"@gmail.com> - 2023-10-16 08:33 -0700
              Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2023-10-16 14:26 -0700
        Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2023-10-16 10:06 -0500
          Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Paul Ragna <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2023-10-16 08:47 -0700
          Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2023-10-16 14:31 -0700
          Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2023-10-17 19:03 -0400
            Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Skeeter <Skeeterweed@proton.me> - 2023-10-18 12:15 -0600
          Unlawful presence is not a crime Blue Lives Matter <NoIronInMyJunk_WhiteSupremacist@Systemic_Treason.KMA> - 2023-10-17 16:40 -0700
            Re: Unlawful presence is not a crime Klaus  Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�ter.@gmail.com> - 2023-10-17 17:01 -0700
              Re: Unlawful presence is not a crime Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2023-10-18 01:11 -0400
      Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Michael A Terrell <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> - 2023-10-15 10:57 -0700
        Re: Knowing that someone is an undocumented immigrant and not reporting it is not a crime Michael A Terrell <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> - 2023-10-15 13:02 -0700

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