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| Subject | Re: Who do you rate as your best read in science fiction? |
| From | Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-01 14:28 -0700 |
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
news:pcajpu$al5$1@dont-email.me:
> On 4/30/2018 10:35 PM, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:pc8bck$dji$2@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 4/30/2018 6:50 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:pc87cl$n6f$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/30/2018 5:48 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:pc7u6g$ot3$4@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/30/2018 3:24 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 4/30/2018 4:29 AM, The Zygon wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I quite deliberately posed the question as "best read"
>>>>>>>>> as opposed to best writer, because I think that far more
>>>>>>>>> factors go into being the best writer than simply having
>>>>>>>>> the best writing
>>>>>>>>> style.  My
>>>>>>>>> favorite read is _Dan Simmons_, but he is not my
>>>>>>>>> favorite writer. Before I read _Dan Simmons_, _Orson
>>>>>>>>> Scott Card_ was my favorite read. My favorite writer is
>>>>>>>>> _C J Cherryh_. I am in awe of her ability to evoke a
>>>>>>>>> sense of the alien in the ET's she writes about. Even
>>>>>>>>> so, she is not the writer I find most impressive.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The writer I find most impressive is _Lois McMaster
>>>>>>>>> Bujold_. She takes stories which are
>>>>>>>>> conceptually quite ordinary and makes something special
>>>>>>>>> out of them. Whenever I read her books, I am reminded of
>>>>>>>>> _Denzel Washington_ÂÂ
>>>>>>>>> in _Training Day_.ÂÂÂ
>>>>>>>>> Without his performance, that movies is a nothing
>>>>>>>>> movie. There are hundreds like it
>>>>>>>>> that no one remembers. But people remember
>>>>>>>>> _Training Day_ because of his
>>>>>>>>> Oscar-winning performance. This is what _Lois McMaster
>>>>>>>>> Bujold_ does to what would otherwise be very ordinary
>>>>>>>>> stories.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Even so, I would not name any of the above as the best
>>>>>>>>> science fiction/fantasy author I haveÂÂÂ
>>>>>>>>> read. Indeed, I am not certain that
>>>>>>>>> I can name anyone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David Weber.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lynn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Explicitly for his Dahak series.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> But nothing he's written since he got too popular to edit.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not sure of that.
>>>>
>>>> I am.
>>>>
>>>> You like a lot of crap books.
>>>
>>> The correct term is pulp.
>>
>> A correct term is pulp. Another is crap.
>>>
>>> Remind me, what SF/F books are your favorites ?
>>
>> #1 book would be the Cordelia's Honor omnibus (which is really
>> only one story), very closely followed by Brust's Phoenix
>> Guards. Both series (including the Vlad stuff from Brust, which
>> really is a separate series, I know) are at the top of my list.
>> Those get reread regularly.
>>
>> Just finished the latest from Jack McDevitt. Keeping current on
>> The Expanse books as they come out. Rereading the Discworld
>> books right now. Mary Stewarts Merlin trilogy (all four books).
>>
>> While they don't hold up espcially well to today's standards
>> (mine, that is, not the world's), I have a fondness for Julian
>> May's Pliocene Exile books (and to a rather less extent, the
>> sequels) and Katherine Kurtz's Deryni books (the first two
>> trilogies, that is, the rest . . . OK, but not among my
>> rereads), The first Pern trilogy.
>>
>> It holds up even less well in many ways, but I have a great
>> fondness for Blish's Cities in Flight books. The Sten books by
>> Bunch and Cole *does* hold up pretty well. Everything of Ryk's
>> that I've read (haven't tried the fantasy stuff so far).
>> Anything by Barry Hughart (but there's only three) or Tom Holt.
>>
>> Howl's Moving Castle (not the movie, though I like that, too,
>> but it's a completely different story) and the two sequels.
>> Pournelle's Falkenberg's Legion stuff, and the related stuff in
>> the same universe. Maybe Hammer's Slammers. Maybe. I'd mention
>> Ellis Peters, but Brother Cadfael isn't SF/F.
>>
>> Pretty much anything by Connie Willis.
>>
>> That's all stuff I've either reread, or probably will.
>
> I've got three by McDevitt
The Alex Benedict series is reminds me quite a bit of classic, old
school stuff. Fairly optomistic view of the far future. The Academy
(or Hutch) series is nearer future (though still a couple hundred
years out), and not quite dystopic, but not a bright, shiny future.
Given the sort of stuff you usually seem to like, I suspect you'll
like the Hutch series better, but it's all good.
> and two from Connie Willis in my SBR.
Which ones? A lot of her stuff is the time travel series, but the
rest is all over the place. (It, too, is all good.)
> Maybe the last Deryni book.
The very first trilogy are classics of the genre. The first Camber
trilogy really appeals to an appreciation of ritual and flowerly
language. After that, you *really* need to like the writing style.
A *lot*. With long, adoring descriptions of inane rituals, the
content of which could be presented in about one paragraph. The
latest, the Childe Morgan stuff, is better on that score, though.
(A friend of mine has one of the Camber books dedicated to him, and
Rhys Thuryn is based on him.)
> I've got one or two Expanse books
> in my SBR.
I read the first one a long time ago, on a lark. It was OK, but too
dark for my normal tastes. Then the TV show started, and really
brought it all to life. They have mastered characterization to a
rare degree. Hack writers rely on stereotypes, and never vary from
them. Better hack writers rely on archtypes, but with a twist that
virtually always reverses it so the character can grow beyond their
flaws. Abraham and Franck manage to let their characters grow and
expand while staying true to their archtype.
>
> The Sten books ARE great.
Classics. And Allan Cole is a hell of a nice guy. And his memoirs
from his days as a Hollywood script writer are hysterical. (Chris
Bunch is, sadly, no longer with us.)
> I've got about three of Ryk's book in
> my SBR.
Well, get to it.
>
> Sounds like you read more fantasy than I do.
>
Not much more, these days, unless you retreat to a purist
definition of science fiction (which makes pretty much all of the
above fantasy except The Expanse and some of Ryk's stuff). The
actual fantasy - the Deryni stuff, the original Pern trilogy
(which, regardless of what McCaffrey intended at the time or has
claimed since, was certainly presented in a fantasy style), the
Pliocene Exile stuff (same as McCaffrey), etc., that's all old
stuff. I read very little *new* fantasy these days, other than
Bujold's Penric stories. (Especially now that Pratchett is gone.)
--
Terry Austin
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"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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