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| Newsgroups | rec.arts.sf.written, sci.physics |
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| Subject | Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This |
| From | Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> |
| References | (11 earlier) <o3fj7k$fg7$4@news.datemas.de> <VIRGIL-44A44C.22455121122016@news.giganews.com> <o3fpd6$ql8$1@news.datemas.de> <VIRGIL-291C7C.23055721122016@news.giganews.com> <o3gvq3$uaf$4@news.datemas.de> |
| Message-ID | <XnsA6E65D2A3C1C5taustingmail@69.16.179.43> (permalink) |
| Organization | Forte - www.forteinc.com |
| Date | 2016-12-22 09:09 -0700 |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in
news:o3gvq3$uaf$4@news.datemas.de:
> On 2016-12-21 10:05 PM, Virgil wrote:
>> In article <o3fpd6$ql8$1@news.datemas.de>,
>> Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2016-12-21 9:45 PM, Virgil wrote:
>>>> In article <o3fj7k$fg7$4@news.datemas.de>,
>>>> Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2016-12-21 7:56 PM, Virgil wrote:
>>>>>> In article <o3ffug$9ot$1@news.datemas.de>,
>>>>>> Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While we have no data that directly supports the presence
>>>>>>> of life anywhere in the universe, we have lots and lots of
>>>>>>> data that there are something the order of 100 billion
>>>>>>> galaxies in the observable universe.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Combining that data with the things we have learned about
>>>>>>> the formation of stars and planets, and we are left with
>>>>>>> the observation that somewhere out there among the 70
>>>>>>> billion trillion stars (yes: 7 x 10^22) there are almost
>>>>>>> certainly many others that also support life and indeed,
>>>>>>> intelligent life.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We do not know either how nor why life came into being on
>>>>>> Earth, so we know nothing of its probability of having
>>>>>> developed elsewhere. For all we know, Earth may be unique
>>>>>> in this respect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It may be...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...but with a population of 7 x 10^22 stars to choose
>>>>> from...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...is it likely?
>>>>
>>>> Even with that many stars, an exact duplicate of our solar
>>>> system history is highly unlikely, and with anything less
>>>> than an exact duplicate of our solar system's history, and
>>>> possibly even our galaxy's history, we have no idea whether
>>>> the startup of life is even possible, much less likely.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why do you imagine it must be an exact duplicate?
>>
>> Anything less would not guarantee the same result,
>> and even an exact duplicate sufficiently before life
>> has come into being would not guarantee the same result.
>>
>
> "Guarantee"? No.
>
> But look at it this way:
>
> If the odds are 1 in a million trillion against life forming
Why do you believe those are the odds? Other than pulling numbers
out of your ass? If the odds are 1 in a trillion trillion trillion
trillion trillion trillion trillion against life forming, then
you're full of shit.
My number is *excatly* as likely as yours, based on available
evidence.
Alan Baker:
Do you agree that riots occured, leading to hundreds of arrests,
during the protests over Trump's election?
*One* answer, not
yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/
no
/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes
/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/
yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/
like you're been doing.
We both (and everyone else) know you *can't* answer once, and stick
with it, since the answer is "Yes, Clinton supporters are far more
prone to criminal violence than Trump supporters or Obama haters."
And you *can't* accept that, due to your illness.
Get help, Alan. Seriously. Before you hurt yourself. You're not
interacting with the world around you any more.
--
Terry Austin
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https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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