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| Subject | Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This |
| From | Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> |
| References | (10 earlier) <VIRGIL-AA4450.20563821122016@news.giganews.com> <o3fj7k$fg7$4@news.datemas.de> <VIRGIL-44A44C.22455121122016@news.giganews.com> <o3fpd6$ql8$1@news.datemas.de> <VIRGIL-291C7C.23055721122016@news.giganews.com> |
| Message-ID | <XnsA6E65CE43F58Etaustingmail@69.16.179.43> (permalink) |
| Organization | Forte - www.forteinc.com |
| Date | 2016-12-22 09:07 -0700 |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> wrote in
news:VIRGIL-291C7C.23055721122016@news.giganews.com:
> In article <o3fpd6$ql8$1@news.datemas.de>,
> Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
>
>> On 2016-12-21 9:45 PM, Virgil wrote:
>> > In article <o3fj7k$fg7$4@news.datemas.de>,
>> > Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 2016-12-21 7:56 PM, Virgil wrote:
>> >>> In article <o3ffug$9ot$1@news.datemas.de>,
>> >>> Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> While we have no data that directly supports the presence
>> >>>> of life anywhere in the universe, we have lots and lots of
>> >>>> data that there are something the order of 100 billion
>> >>>> galaxies in the observable universe.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Combining that data with the things we have learned about
>> >>>> the formation of stars and planets, and we are left with
>> >>>> the observation that somewhere out there among the 70
>> >>>> billion trillion stars (yes: 7 x 10^22) there are almost
>> >>>> certainly many others that also support life and indeed,
>> >>>> intelligent life.
>> >>>
>> >>> We do not know either how nor why life came into being on
>> >>> Earth, so we know nothing of its probability of having
>> >>> developed elsewhere. For all we know, Earth may be unique
>> >>> in this respect.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> It may be...
>> >>
>> >> ...but with a population of 7 x 10^22 stars to choose
>> >> from...
>> >>
>> >> ...is it likely?
>> >
>> > Even with that many stars, an exact duplicate of our solar
>> > system history is highly unlikely, and with anything less
>> > than an exact duplicate of our solar system's history, and
>> > possibly even our galaxy's history, we have no idea whether
>> > the startup of life is even possible, much less likely.
>> >
>>
>> Why do you imagine it must be an exact duplicate?
>
> Anything less would not guarantee the same result,
If there are quantum effects involved, eve nthat cannot guarantee
the same result.
(And, of course, if there's intelligent design involved, all bets
are off.)
--
Terry Austin
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https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
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Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-21 15:37 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-12-25 08:25 -0600
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Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-12-21 19:06 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-21 20:37 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-21 14:43 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-12-21 19:05 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-12-21 20:56 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-12-21 20:01 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-21 20:41 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-12-21 22:55 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-12-21 22:01 -0800
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Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 09:05 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-12-21 22:45 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-12-21 21:47 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-12-21 23:05 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-12-22 06:13 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-12-22 08:42 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 09:09 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-12-22 09:15 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 09:32 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-12-22 09:37 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 10:25 -0700
Gutless whining (was Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-12-22 10:29 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-22 09:36 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 09:07 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 09:07 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 09:05 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 09:05 -0700
Gutless whining Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-12-22 09:12 -0800
Re: Gutless whining Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 09:32 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-22 09:20 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 09:33 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-22 13:43 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 14:04 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-21 18:29 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-22 23:08 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-23 09:37 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-23 20:35 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-23 20:59 -0800
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