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| Newsgroups | alt.atheism, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, rec.arts.sf.written |
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| Subject | Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. |
| From | Mitchell Holman <noemail@att.net> |
| References | (10 earlier) <55D82240.7A8A@ix.netcom.com> <0l9gtat941ch38v10qhb60cmmhc6kao719@4ax.com> <55D8CC1D.533F@ix.netcom.com> <fvuita5lkdc21pgj8un6f4t4lit202k133@4ax.com> <55DA45D8.3FC5@ix.netcom.com> |
| Organization | TDSOTF |
| Message-ID | <XnsA4FFD49FF3EDAnoemailattnet@216.166.97.131> (permalink) |
| Date | 2015-08-23 20:49 -0500 |
Cross-posted to 4 groups.
The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote in news:55DA45D8.3FC5@ix.netcom.com: > Attila < wrote: >> >> On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 12:23:09 -0700, The Starmaker >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >> <55D8CC1D.533F@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >> >> >Attila < wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 00:18:24 -0700, The Starmaker >> >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >> >> <55D82240.7A8A@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >Attila < wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 13:19:37 -0700, The Starmaker >> >> >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >> >> >> <55D787D9.5207@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Can you give an example of >> >> >> >> >> >an "unrelated source", ...i'm trying to help you here >> >> >> >> >> >but i must be clear first on what you are requiring. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Start with something that has absolutely no connection >> >> >> >> >> whatsoever with your bible or any one mentioned in it. A >> >> >> >> >> totally unrelated source that has no agenda to support >> >> >> >> >> by reporting items to support that agenda. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Think of a courtroom in which witnesses other than the >> >> >> >> >> defendant's friends and relatives present testimony. >> >> >> >> >> Think of forensic evidence unrelated to any so-called >> >> >> >> >> 'eyewitness'. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> What that evidence could be is up to you, but remember >> >> >> >> >> the more unlikely the subject the higher the level of >> >> >> >> >> required evidence. What would be needed to support the >> >> >> >> >> existence of a god would require about the best that >> >> >> >> >> would be possible since the likelihood of a god is >> >> >> >> >> highly improbable. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >How about The Laws of Physics? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> How about them? They are constantly tested, verified, and >> >> >> >> modified where necessary. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >The Laws of Physics is GOD. The Law of Physics come from GOD.. >> >> >> >> >> >> OK You just made two assertions. Now provide evidence to >> >> >> support them. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Are you saying The Laws of Physics are constantly tested, >> >> >verified, and modified where necessary, and nobody know where The >> >> >Laws of Physics come from???? >> >> >> >> The don't come from anywhere. They describe the activity of the >> >> reality in which we live. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >If not from God, then who? >> >> >> >> Why anyone? Or anything? >> > >> > >> >Well, it doesn't have to be a person, or a "anything" since only 5 >> >percent of the universe is made of only 'anything'. It could be that >> >95 percent of what the universe 'is' that makes the laws of physics. >> >The Laws of Physics don't from from a person or anythings...it comes >> >from somewhere else..where you haven't bother to look. >> >> Why should they come from anywhere? They are simply inherent in the >> existence of the universe. >> >> They explain how things work. >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >You sound like you believe in The Laws of Physics, but not sure >> >> >where they come from... >> >> > >> >> >are you an agnostic? You sound like one. >> >> >> >> I really am not concerned with how someone else describes me as >> >> long as they don't lie. >> > >> >Well, I am not lying when I say I believe you believe in >> >God...you're just not sure entirely. But who is? >> >> I hold no such belief unless and until someone presents me with >> acceptable evidence for support. > > But surely you onced believed...you were probably once a good > christian boy... > >> >> > >> >Not everybody believes Thor is a god...those would be the atheist. >> >There are atheist among christians too. >> >> My requirement is not for any particular god. It covers all of them. > > > What do you mean by "all of them"? There is only one GOD, what other > ones are you refering too???? > What other gods is the Bible referring to? "You shall have no other gods before me." Exodus 20:3 "For the Lord is the great God, the great King above all gods." (Ps 95:3) "For you, Lord, are the Most High over all the earth; you are exalted far above all gods." (Ps 97:9) "All the gods bow down before the Lord" (Ps. 97:7). "I know the Lord is great, and our Lord is superior to all gods." (Ps. 135:5) They have driven me today from my share in the Lord’s inheritance and have said, ‘Go, serve other gods.’ 1 Samuel 26:19
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:24 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-14 12:08 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-14 14:17 -0500
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-14 14:16 -0500
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 18:48 +0800
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 00:56 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 01:08 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 01:09 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 14:06 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 06:04 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 12:12 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 03:37 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 21:25 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 02:54 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:21 -0700
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 18:47 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:30 -0400
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 16:50 -0400
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:43 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-19 09:45 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 05:06 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-21 00:25 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 04:52 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-21 13:19 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 17:29 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-22 00:18 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-22 03:39 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-22 12:23 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:57 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-23 15:14 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mitchell Holman <noemail@att.net> - 2015-08-23 20:49 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-24 05:17 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-24 12:45 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-24 22:32 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:06 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:28 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:08 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:04 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 06:07 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:16 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:27 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:51 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:34 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:55 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:48 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 20:59 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 05:13 -0400
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 04:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-21 19:58 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 17:31 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 07:47 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-22 03:40 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:19 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-23 21:20 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 17:00 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-24 23:49 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-24 20:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:23 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:37 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-18 00:51 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 16:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-15 15:17 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:31 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-15 12:14 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:36 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 03:42 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:11 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 11:48 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 10:58 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 11:56 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-23 17:33 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-23 07:12 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-25 00:22 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 17:07 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-24 11:24 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-24 20:34 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-25 00:21 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-24 20:35 -0400
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