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| From | Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> |
| Subject | Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) |
| References | <qui2k6$rst$1@dont-email.me> <qui33j$3m0$1@news.albasani.net> <87y2urozdn.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <qurj51$fv8$1@news.albasani.net> <8736cumt3s.fsf@bsb.me.uk> |
| Message-ID | <X4nQF.78707$qQ.43573@fx19.am4> (permalink) |
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| Date | 2020-01-05 15:16 +0000 |
On 2020-01-05, Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> wrote: > Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> writes: > >>>>> In your experience, what is (roughly) a reasonable threshold (n) in >>>>> terms of convenience of passing from stupid algorithms (bubblesort, >>>>> gnomesort) to better and more complex ones ? >> >>>> Don't use the simpler algorithms. Algthough they might be faster >>>> on a few elements, their runtime doesn't count then because there >>>> are just a few elements. >> >>> But there might be billions of such small sorts. It's a rare situation, >>> but it shows that the logic you used is not sound. >> >> Try this on your computer. > > First, I was commenting on your logic, not your conclusion. Your > conclusion -- don't use simple but slow sorts -- might be right but you > can't get to that conclusion using the logic you used. > > Second, the results from your timing code will depend on the data as > well as on the algorithm. For example, on my laptop, with sorted data, > your code (slightly modified to use non-random numbers) shows bubble > sort as faster (by a factor of at least 2) for all sizes tested (you go > up to 20). I don't know if the code is measuring this correctly -- I am > just reporting on the output. > > Third, the OP was not just about bubble sort. To get a sound answer > from measurements, the best simple sort, insertion sort, should be used. I use quicksort then insertion sort when partition falls down bellow 15 elements... I think this is common knowledge. > ><cut timing code> -- press any key to continue or any other to quit... U ničemu ja ne uživam kao u svom statusu INVALIDA -- Zli Zec Svi smo svedoci - oko 3 godine intenzivne propagande je dovoljno da jedan narod poludi -- Zli Zec Na divljem zapadu i nije bilo tako puno nasilja, upravo zato jer su svi bili naoruzani. -- Mladen Gogala
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C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2020-01-01 13:17 +0100
Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 13:25 +0100
Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-01-01 17:33 +0000
Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-05 03:54 +0100
Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-05 04:04 +0100
Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2020-01-05 03:59 +0000
Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-05 05:03 +0100
Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2020-01-05 21:13 +0100
Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-06 05:50 +0100
Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-06 06:55 +0100
Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-01-05 04:20 +0000
Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-05 05:26 +0100
Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-01-05 13:33 +0000
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Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-06 05:39 +0100
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Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-01-07 07:51 +0000
Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-01-05 15:16 +0000
Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-05 05:50 +0100
Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Bo Persson <bo@bo-persson.se> - 2020-01-01 13:34 +0100
Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2020-01-01 14:09 +0100
Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Bo Persson <bo@bo-persson.se> - 2020-01-01 15:16 +0100
Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2020-01-01 09:24 -0600
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Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2020-01-02 15:11 -0800
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Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-01-21 15:04 +0000
Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-27 11:52 -0800
Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-01-30 00:32 +0000
Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-02-15 05:30 -0800
Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-02-15 16:39 +0000
Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2020-01-02 11:28 +0100
Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2020-01-02 19:46 +0100
Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-02 20:00 +0100
Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-03 07:37 +0100
Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2020-01-03 20:06 +0100
Re: C++ threshold for "stupid" sorting algorithms (O(n^2)) Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2020-01-03 11:12 -0800
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