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Subject Re: Bell's spaceship paradox...
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
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From Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net>
Date 2015-09-04 09:55 -0500
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On 9/3/15 9/3/15   5:05 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 9/3/2015 3:59 PM, JanPB wrote:
>> On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 12:55:58 PM UTC-7, al...@interia.pl wrote:
>>> There is no needed any strategy against the indoctrinated idiots -
>>> they simply die alone, and with them also die off all their delusions.
>>
>> Problem is, you just keep _saying_ those things. Anyone can say anything.
>
> The thing is, special relativity is 110 years old. That's 4.5 generations of
> humans.
>
> You would have thought that if it were false, the indoctrinated idiots would
> have died off a long time ago, alone and with their delusions.
>
> So now, since special relativity seems to have survived multiple generations and
> there are only a small handful of people who still don't believe special
> relativity, which group is the one most in danger of dying off, alone with their
> delusions? Hmmmmmm?

The actual situation is QUITE different.

Among physicists, there is essentially 100% agreement on the validity of SR 
within its domain. There are literally >10,000 physicists who use SR in their 
daily work. Moreover, the thousands of modern particle accelerators simply would 
not work if SR was seriously incorrect; of course they do work. So to think that 
SR is "merely due to indoctrinated idiots" is HOPELESSLY IGNORANT.

As you say, the group of people who disbelieve SR is quite small (compared to 
the physics community as a whole). Moreover, it consists of idiots, fools, and 
people who simply do not understand the real issues, such as alsor@interia.pl 
(and a host of other people around here).

Like Newtonian mechanics (which is now known to be only an approximation to a 
better theory), SR will never "disappear"; it will ALWAYS be useful within its 
domain of applicability.


Tom Roberts

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Bell's spaceship paradox... rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 20:32 -0700
  Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-09-03 11:27 +0200
  Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-03 08:32 -0700
    Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 09:44 -0700
      Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-03 10:23 -0700
        Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 12:07 -0700
          Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-03 12:13 -0700
            Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 12:39 -0700
              Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... "Lleyton H. Bellucci" <lleyb@stratospheree.org> - 2015-09-03 19:45 +0000
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 12:47 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... "Lleyton H. Bellucci" <lleyb@stratospheree.org> - 2015-09-03 19:52 +0000
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 13:58 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... "Lleyton H. Bellucci" <lleyb@stratospheree.org> - 2015-09-03 22:03 +0000
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 16:52 -0700
              Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-03 12:55 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 13:59 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 17:05 -0500
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-04 09:55 -0500
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 10:04 -0500
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-04 12:50 -0500
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:48 -0500
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 12:44 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:55 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-09-05 15:09 +0200
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 11:51 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-04 16:22 -0400
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2015-09-06 21:59 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 05:49 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 09:04 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 09:30 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 02:41 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 04:16 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-04 12:11 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 12:45 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-04 13:14 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-05 10:30 -0500
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... "Lleyton H. Bellucci" <lleyb@stratospheree.org> - 2015-09-05 15:47 +0000
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-05 09:48 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-05 09:30 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 11:50 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-05 12:05 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 12:14 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-05 12:36 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 14:11 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-06 09:35 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-06 11:04 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-06 18:07 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-11 15:35 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-05 06:12 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-04 11:34 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-09-03 14:51 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-04 11:11 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-09-04 11:14 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... mabel <wugi@scarlet.be> - 2015-09-04 20:52 +0200
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 11:14 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-04 12:53 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 22:52 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-06 09:42 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 15:07 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-09-09 15:33 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-11 09:08 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-11 12:52 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-09-11 22:45 +0200
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-11 15:16 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-09-12 12:10 +0200
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-11 13:55 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-11 15:13 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-13 09:19 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 14:01 -0700
                Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-14 09:12 -0700
    Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-03 12:47 -0500
      Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-03 11:51 -0700
        Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 12:41 -0700
          Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-03 13:00 -0700
      Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-09-03 21:48 +0200
      Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... wugi <brol@brol.be> - 2015-09-07 18:30 +0200
        Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-07 12:50 -0500
          Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-07 12:55 -0700
          Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... wugi <brol@brol.be> - 2015-09-12 17:17 +0200
  Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-04 17:49 -0700
    Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-04 19:09 -0700
  Re: Bell's spaceship paradox... rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 20:53 -0700

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