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Re: Ask Usenet: XPocalypse Now

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On 14/04/2014 02:06, Dirk T. Verbeek wrote:
> op 13-04-14 03:35 schreef Kees Nuyt:
>>> a new PC with Windows 7,
>> Hard to get. Would be MS Windows 8 or 8.1 by now.
>>
> The (Dutch) websites I check offer all serious computers with an
> inclusive upgrade to Win7.
>
> But I'm told Win8.1 did get the regular start button back and you can
> now run all applications in desktop mode, not just tablet style full
> screen.

If you try Win8.1 you may find you have a start button but not a start 
menu the way you expect.

 From my experience Win8 is horrible to use but the OS seems much faster 
on the same hardware than Win7 was. The Win8 fix that worked for me was 
to install the free utility, ClassicShell. This makes it as near 
Win7/XP/2k as you want. It turns an unusable heap of junk into something 
I'm happy to use. I prefer Win7 though.

Win7 is readily available, look under "business" not "home" on vendor 
websites.

As for Linux, I've been using it since 1998 and would recommend it only 
under caution. Again from experience, computer users sit in 2 camps. 
Those who want to do something and need a computer to do that thing and 
don't care what goes on to achieve it. Those who care how the computer 
does that thing. Giving Linux to anyone in the 1st group will give you 
lots of IT support issues nobody pays you to fix.

My solution: a tablet for general internet nonsense (iOS or Android, it 
doesn't matter) and a cheap Win 8 laptop with a touch screen. Bring them 
into the 21st century. When the Win machine gets owned, slows down etc. 
then reinstall from the rescue partition. This doesn't move forward 
"Linux on the desktop" or reduce Msoft dependency. It continues all the 
grief Windows users find themselves in if they don't want to know how 
computers work. But it massively reduces the support load from friends 
and family. "Oh got an issue? Well it's time to reinstall the rescue 
disk." They get the PC working and you don't loose your free time.

Cynical yes, but based on years of providing free IT support.

YMMV

;-)

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Ask Usenet: XPocalypse Now "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-04-12 07:06 -0500
  Re: Ask Usenet: XPocalypse Now Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2014-04-12 05:49 -0700
  Re: Ask Usenet: XPocalypse Now Randy Westlund <Vorzakir@invalid.invalid> - 2014-04-12 18:23 +0000
    Re: Ask Usenet: XPocalypse Now Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-04-13 00:11 +0100
      Re: Ask Usenet: XPocalypse Now Randy Westlund <Vorzakir@invalid.invalid> - 2014-04-13 04:55 +0000
  Re: Ask Usenet: XPocalypse Now Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2014-04-13 07:28 +0100
  Re: Ask Usenet: XPocalypse Now Kees Nuyt <k.nuyt@nospam.demon.nl> - 2014-04-13 10:35 +0200
    Re: Ask Usenet: XPocalypse Now RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-04-13 22:04 +0000
      Re: Ask Usenet: XPocalypse Now Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-04-14 10:40 +0200
    Re: Ask Usenet: XPocalypse Now "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2014-04-13 20:06 -0500
      Re: Ask Usenet: XPocalypse Now mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2014-04-14 17:54 +0100
        Re: Ask Usenet: XPocalypse Now RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-04-14 17:50 +0000
          Re: Ask Usenet: XPocalypse Now Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2014-04-14 12:00 -0700
            Re: Ask Usenet: XPocalypse Now Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2014-04-14 20:19 +0000
              Re: Ask Usenet: XPocalypse Now RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-04-14 20:44 +0000
          Re: Ask Usenet: XPocalypse Now mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2014-04-14 21:49 +0100
            Re: Ask Usenet: XPocalypse Now RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-04-15 09:15 +0000
          Re: Ask Usenet: XPocalypse Now Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2014-04-15 11:23 -0400
        Re: Ask Usenet: XPocalypse Now scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2014-04-15 21:47 +0000
        Re: Ask Usenet: XPocalypse Now "John" <j@j.j> - 2014-04-17 15:27 -0700
  Re: Ask Usenet: XPocalypse Now Bryan Beicker <bryan@pipedot.org> - 2014-04-13 07:21 -0500
  Re: Ask Usenet: XPocalypse Now "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-04-15 09:04 -0500
    Re: Ask Usenet: XPocalypse Now Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2014-04-15 20:08 +0100
      Re: Ask Usenet: XPocalypse Now RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-04-16 10:33 +0000

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