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Re: 6) the inconsistency of the Michelson-Morley esp

Subject Re: 6) the inconsistency of the Michelson-Morley esp
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
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From Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com>
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Date 2018-11-13 13:32 +0000

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On 12/11/2018 21:14, JanPB wrote:
> On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 12:45:44 AM UTC-8, Keith Stein wrote:
>> On 10/11/2018 09:33, JanPB wrote:
>>> On Saturday, November 10, 2018 at 12:41:20 AM UTC-8, Keith Stein wrote:
>>>> On 09/11/2018 23:04, JanPB wrote:
>>
>>>>> [Einstein] was motivated by Maxwell's equations, more specifically he wanted
>>>>> to supply a physical basis to the transformed E and B fields and to the
>>>>> Lorentz transformation which had been known already but interpreted as a
>>>>> mostly mathematical property of Maxwell's equations.
>>
>>>> The Lorentz transforms are most definitely NOT a consequence of
>>>> Maxwell's Theory, as written by J.C.Maxwell.
>>
>>> It's a property of Maxwell's equations that they are invariant under the Lorentz
>>> transformation. This was known before Einstein.
>>
>> Maxwell's equations (as written by Maxwell) were NEVER invariant under
>> the Lorentz transforms. Not then, not now, not ever eh!
> 
> Yes, but as I've already explained (responding to Tom's post), I meant
> Maxwell's equations at the time Einstein began his work, NOT as originally
> written by Maxwell almost 50 years earlier.

And as I've already explained to Tom Roberts, when i say Maxwell's
  equations, i mean Maxwell's equations eh!

> Look e.g. at Lorentz's 1904 paper
> preceding Einstein's in the Dover book. He goes over the Lorentz invariance of
> Maxwell's equations there.

Lorentz certainly did not show the Lorentz invariance of Maxwell's 
equations, because Maxwell's equations are not Lorentz invariant eh!

keith stein




> --
> Jan
>

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    Re: 6) the inconsistency of the Michelson-Morley esp Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-09 09:02 -0600
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