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Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing

Subject Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11, comp.os.linux.advocacy
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From Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch>
Message-ID <TzwdP.38352$vfee.24212@fx45.iad> (permalink)
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Date 2025-01-02 08:32 -0500

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On 2025-01-01 20:10, Joel wrote:
> Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>> On 2025-01-01 18:30, Joel wrote:
>>> Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>>> On 2025-01-01 14:34, Joel wrote:
>>>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 01 Jan 2025 14:45:44 GMT, Gregg Fowler wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Beta software is beta software. An OS is an OS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And Microsoft is the only one shipping a beta-quality OS and expecting its
>>>>>> users to rely on that for mission-critical production work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, weird, huh?  It's like they can't make it right from the
>>>>> beginning, they need people to put up with bugs to test it in the
>>>>> wild, how is their internal testing so poor?  Being on the cutting
>>>>> edge with M$ is just spinning one's wheels.  Linux is the refuge.
>>>>
>>>> If Windows 11 didn't routinely become unbootable from an update that
>>>> Microsoft didn't test under certain conditions, I'd disagree with Joel
>>>> here. However, it seems that it happens with every one of their
>>>> cumulative updates.
>>>
>>> Seemingly, they aren't really testing the code, much less testing
>>> deployment, because the kinds of bugs just don't reflect an odd
>>> incompatibility but rather that specific PC systems are treated in an
>>> erroneous manner, M$ can't manage its bloated OS, I guess.  They do a
>>> passable job on the whole, though, but certain customers are plagued
>>> by the bugs.
>>
>> The bug that finally caused me to stop bothering with them isn't
>> Microsoft's fault, but I do fault them for continuing to demand TPM when
>> the requirement was causing stuttering with anyone who owned an AMD
>> processor. Like I said, if you were aware of what was causing the
>> problem and your motherboard allowed you to install a hardware TPM, you
>> were clear as long as you didn't mind paying to buy one, assuming that a
>> BIOS update wasn't available. However, most people could _at best_
>> disable it and lose the ability to install 11. If they knew about Rufus,
>> they could try to circumvent the problem and hope that Microsoft didn't
>> screw them over in an update. For laptop owners though, it's an absolute
>> mess that the manufacturers have no interest in fixing. There is no
>> excuse for any manufacturer to be aware of such an issue for years and
>> not do a thing about it. Additionally, there is no excuse for Microsoft
>> to acknowledge this reality and not at least allow AMD users to use 11
>> without TPM if not disable the hwrng causing the issue. Anyways, I'm
>> tired of being treated like I don't matter because they already got my
>> money.
> 
> 
> I think Microsoft genuinely feels that their barely supporting
> hardware, in any real sense, is the natural way, that if people are
> too stupid or stubborn to try Linux on a somewhat older system, they
> get what they deserve, bloat that overloads their gear.  It's really
> amazing, how attached people are to Winblows software, and how
> intimidated they are by anything Linux (I mean they can try Mint,
> FFS), M$ and the OEMs just suck their money year after year.

As simple as the process of creating a USB thumdrive loaded with Linux 
and booting from it is, this is considered too complicated by a large 
amount of computer users. A lot of them already find it difficult to 
uninstall software that they clearly don't need or to run a command like 
sfc periodically to check if their system files are corrupt. They need 
someone to hold their hand to install Linux and even then, they'll need 
a hand just to figure out how to install and remove software. It seems 
ridiculous for me to say this but it's not a joke; people really are 
this stupid.

I've grown up surrounded by these people. I spent a lot of my life 
thinking that everyone around me was at least as smart as I was. 
Instead, I'm realizing that most people are either book smart or street 
smart, and very few have the curiosity required to learn how things work 
on their own.

>> At least the manufacturer replaced my motherboard when I intentionally
>> fucked it up on the day before my warranty ended. It was becoming clear
>> that the fingerprint reader wasn't working because the technician
>> shorted the motherboard during the first repair when they replaced my
>> battery, so I wanted a replacement and I wouldn't get it unless I killed
>> it.
> 
> You mean that you made an already malfunctioning board completely
> dead, because you didn't want the fingerprint reader alone repaired,
> but a replacement of the board?  I guess I can't fault you, for that,
> to me the idea of a warranty claim is the ultimate in drudgery, which
> is why I purchased the wireless charger for my phone when its USB-C
> stopped working under warranty, no fucking way am I playing that game
> where they issue me a replacement and refurbish and profit from my
> original one, fuck them, I'd rather give Amazon the few bucks for an
> alternative charging mechanism.

When they first repaired the laptop because the keyboard was faulty, I 
asked them to replace the battery while they were at it because the wear 
was at 17% or so. I was told that replacing it myself was risky because 
one wrong move results in a spark that might kill your motherboard, so I 
figured a professional would do a cleaner job. When I got the unit back, 
the keyboard worked fine but suddenly the fingerprint reader was broken 
so I asked them to look into it. They did nothing, as far as I know, but 
sent me the unit back with some laptop sleeve and an apology. From that 
point on, I tried literally everything to get that fingerprint reader to 
work right but nothing resulted in it working consistently. With a day 
left to my warranty, I figured they had gotten a spark when they changed 
the battery, so I killed the motherboard (without it receiving any kind 
of obvious damage) to force them to remedy the situation they had 
ignored the previous time around. I was right: the motherboard was 
indeed the issue and they had most likely gotten a spark because it 
works perfectly now (in Windows, since it is not supported under Linux).

-- 
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
Telegram: @AndrzejMatuch
Zephyrus G14 GA401QM on Fedora 41
KDE supporting member

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This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-31 19:08 +0000
  Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 15:19 -0500
    Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2024-12-31 15:41 -0500
      Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 21:09 +0000
    Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 21:40 -0500
      Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 22:14 -0500
        Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 22:16 -0500
          Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 22:46 -0500
            Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-01 07:50 -0500
              Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-01 08:37 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-01 09:20 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-01 10:06 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-01 23:31 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-01 19:26 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 19:14 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-01 09:38 -0600
    Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Gregg Fowler <totsob@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-01 14:45 +0000
      Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-01 10:20 -0500
      Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 11:42 -0500
      Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-01 19:28 +0000
        Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 14:34 -0500
          Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-01 18:17 -0500
            Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 18:30 -0500
              Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-01 19:23 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 20:10 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-02 08:32 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-02 19:00 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-02 15:04 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 15:18 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-04 20:10 -0500
            Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-01 23:46 -0500
              Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 00:15 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-02 08:58 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 12:11 -0500
          Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-01 23:38 +0000
            Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 18:54 -0500
            Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-01 19:28 -0500
              Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-01 23:59 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 00:16 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-02 05:31 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-02 18:21 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:55 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 10:18 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-03 21:25 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 13:06 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-04 09:48 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 00:28 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-04 21:16 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 02:44 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-04 13:29 -0700
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-02 08:55 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 19:22 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-02 15:04 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-03 01:58 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-02 22:12 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-03 08:41 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-03 07:16 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-03 20:24 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-03 15:38 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-02 22:36 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 11:26 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-03 06:13 -0600
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 13:47 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-03 21:26 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-03 20:24 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-04 06:43 -0600
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-04 10:20 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 13:47 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 13:16 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 00:26 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-05 14:35 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-06 00:15 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-06 14:47 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-06 20:20 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-04 20:21 -0500
              Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-02 18:50 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:57 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-02 22:41 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 10:37 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 10:28 +0000
        Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 20:19 +0000
          Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 15:24 -0500
            Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 21:14 +0000
              Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 17:10 -0500
              Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 00:19 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-01 22:12 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 19:26 +0000
            Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-01 23:53 +0000
          Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-01 21:54 +0000
            Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-01 22:42 -0500
              Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-02 05:29 +0000
            Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-02 18:39 +0000
              Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:56 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 10:18 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-03 21:27 +0000
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          Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-27 17:14 -0500
  Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:45 +0000
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  Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 21:33 -0500
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      Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-06 00:15 +0000
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