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| From | benj <nobody@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics |
| Subject | Re: Future Advances in Physics... |
| References | <_x8cy.4543$h27.3447@fx23.iad> <dbd229ce-3a31-40b6-b989-d0d388be6833@googlegroups.com> <740724b5-6d99-4bc2-966c-e3319c61b8a0@googlegroups.com> |
| Message-ID | <SJOdy.17836$K21.7176@fx02.iad> (permalink) |
| Organization | TeraNews.com |
| Date | 2015-12-21 03:27 -0500 |
On 12/19/2015 04:22 PM, Timo wrote:
> On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 6:17:11 AM UTC+10, nu...@bid.nes wrote:
>> On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 11:38:40 PM UTC-8, benj wrote:
>>
>>> So, you want to be the next "Einstein" developing the next big thing in
>>> physics. Where you do investigate?
>>
>> IIRC Einstein wasn't a professional physicist when he published his first "big thing".
>
> Between PhD and academic position. The job market back then wasn't walk-into-tenure.
>
> His PhD work was mainstream statistical mechanics (thermodynamics). A relatively new and innovative field at the time. His "big things":
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annus_Mirabilis_papers
> included stuff straight from that work (Brownian motion, for long his most-cited paper, though iirc the approach of 2005 changed that), and (at least some of) the others were influenced by it.
>
> The Einstein lesson is that if you want to overthrow orthodox physics in a revolution, do a PhD in orthodox physics. Revolution comes from the inside.
>
> As for "forbidden", he published his revolutionary work in mainstream physics journals. Many of the older generation of German physicists immediately recognised the quality and value of his work. He got the tail end of the multiple Nobel Prizes for the thermodynamics of light (Wien and Planck got the others). To try to redo Einstein, train within the system, do a PhD within the system, and have a Good Idea. Publish. And don't be surprised if you end up working in patent law after your PhD (this part still happens today).
>
I will not review the history of this situation except to note that
Einstein never got a Nobel prize for any "relativity" work even though
the everyone in the world were falling all over themselves proclaiming
he was science God of the Cosmos. Coincidence?
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Re: Future Advances in Physics... "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 12:17 -0800
Re: Future Advances in Physics... Timo <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2015-12-19 13:22 -0800
Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 03:27 -0500
Re: Future Advances in Physics... Timo <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2015-12-21 00:57 -0800
Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 14:00 -0500
Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 14:21 -0600
Re: Future Advances in Physics... Timo <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2015-12-21 17:12 -0800
Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 21:44 -0500
Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 07:53 -0600
Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 13:12 -0500
Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 12:34 -0600
Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 18:13 -0500
Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 08:14 -0600
Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 14:03 -0500
Re: Future Advances in Physics... HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 16:16 -0800
Re: Future Advances in Physics... "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 22:24 -0800
Re: Future Advances in Physics... Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-12-27 14:03 -0800
Re: Future Advances in Physics... HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-27 16:48 -0800
Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 12:38 -0600
Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 18:20 -0500
Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 08:16 -0600
Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 14:09 -0500
Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 21:20 -0500
Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 07:38 -0600
Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 13:03 -0500
Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 12:23 -0600
Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 17:56 -0500
Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 17:46 -0600
Re: Future Advances in Physics... HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 20:11 -0800
Re: Future Advances in Physics... john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 05:14 -0800
Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 08:21 -0600
Re: Future Advances in Physics... john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 00:48 -0800
Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 11:13 -0600
Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 07:44 -0600
Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 13:05 -0500
Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 12:28 -0600
Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 18:03 -0500
Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 10:14 -0600
Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 10:32 -0600
Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 22:00 -0500
Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 21:57 -0500
Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 11:12 -0600
Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 21:19 -0500
Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 13:03 -0600
Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 14:12 -0500
Re: Future Advances in Physics... "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 22:22 -0800
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