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Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox

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On 07/16/2015 12:36 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 7/16/2015 10:29 AM, benj wrote:
>> On 07/16/2015 10:16 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> On 7/16/2015 4:05 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
>>>> "Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
>>>> news:d0otdmFdu7qU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> On 16/07/2015 12:53 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
>>>> <snip>
>>>>>> <http://seprogrammo.blogspot.co.uk/2015/07/symmetric-twins-paradox.html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What I see is a description of an experiment, together with an
>>>>> assertion as to the result of applying SR.
>>>>
>>>> That is correct: the result is obvious, the consequences are not
>>>> obvious.
>>>>
>>>>> What I don't see is any math to support the assertion.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you had presented the math, we could point to the errors you've
>>>>> made.
>>>>
>>>> This is not a maths forum: anyway, if you knew anything about special
>>>> relativity, you would not need to ask.
>>>
>>> Julio, in order to work out the consequences of any physical theory, you
>>> have to do the math. This is why math is part and parcel of physics. It
>>> is simply not possible to competently work out the consequences of
>>> relativity if you can't do the math of relativity. I think that's the
>>> caution that Sylvia is putting out to you. If you now say that you don't
>>> believe that math should be a required skill to work out the outcomes
>>> and consequences of a theory, then it's quite likely you'll lose the
>>> interest of your readers.
>>
>> Julio, Boinker can't understand that math is nothing but fantasy. It
>> can't sink into his thick skull that when your assumptions are wrong,
>> your math is "wrong" (but "right" as mathematics). He's just snowed.
>
> Right. Like Newtonian math F=dp/dt and F_g = GMm/r^2 is fantasy and has
> nothing to do with reality.

You are correct but so brainwashed like Boinker you don't know you are 
correct! So what exactly is a "dp/dt" anyway? Where do I find one to 
measure? I presume you think Newton's law of gravitation "explains" 
gravity? You need to think a bit more.



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Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 11:29 -0400
  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 11:36 -0500
    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 16:33 -0400
    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 16:45 -0400
      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 14:17 -0700

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