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Re: Problem with array objects

From "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk>
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Subject Re: Problem with array objects
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Date 2011-04-04 20:12 +0100

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"A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> wrote in message 
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> On 2011-04-02, Paul <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> wrote in message
>> news:slrnipc3gd.6l7.aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net...
>>> On 2011-03-31, Paul <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> [snip]
>>>>> How is a part of the C++ standard that is about dereferencing an
>>>>> array relevant to a C++ statement in which there is no dereferencing
>>>>> of an array?
>>>> Because it explains that when you derefernece an array it returns a
>>>> pointed
>>>> to (n-1) dimensional array.
>>>
>>> In order for a part of the C++ standard that is about a dereference
>>> of an array to be relevant to a C++ statement, the statement has to
>>> contain a dereference of an array.  The statement
>>>
>>>  int *p = new int[4]
>>>
>>> does not dereference an array.
>>>
>>> There are many other sections of the C++ standard that are not
>>> relevant to that statement, such section 5.7 about Additive
>>> Operators.  There are some sections that are relevant, such as
>>> section 5.3.4 about New.
>> The argument is not simply about this statement, it is about what a 
>> pointer
>> to an array is. Therefore the section of the C++ standards that defines
>> pointers to arrays is very releveant.
>
> My comment was simply about a C++ statement.  I wrote that part of
> the C++ standard about dereferencing an array is not relevant to the
> statement
>
>  int *p = new int[4];
>
> because that statement does not dereference an array.
>
> In addition, the statement does not involve a pointer to an array.
> The statement declares a pointer to an int.  That pointer is
> initialized with a C++ expression that according to the C++
> standard returns a pointer to an int (see paragraph 5 of section
> 5.3.4 of the standard about New, which I quoted it in my first post
> in this thread of posts).
>
Nonsense that pointer simply does point to an array. Obviously its type is 
pointer to int, but this does not mean it cannot point to an array of int.
Since you have stated that a pointer of type int* cannot point to an array 
the rellevant sections of the standards, that address dereferencing pointers 
to arrays, are applicable.


>>>>>>>> Why do you think, with three pointers to exactly the same place, 
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> point
>>>>>>>> to different things?
>>>>>>>> Its exactly the opposite of what you say because:
>>>>>>>> int arr[6]; /*r-value , can only point to the first element*/
>>>>>>>> int* parr=arr; /*l-value , can point to any element*/
>>>>>>>> int (*pparr)[6] = &arr; /*l-value, can only point to 1st element or 
>>>>>>>> 1
>>>>>>>> past
>>>>>>>> end.*/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They all initially point to the same address, but they have 
>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>> types.
>>>>>>> arr has type array of 6 int.  parr has type pointer to int.  pparr 
>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>> type
>>>>>>> pointer to array of 6 int.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> They are all int types
>>>>>> arr[6]; /* returns int */
>>>>>> *parr; /*returns int */
>>>>>> *pparr; /*returns int[], which decays to int* */
>>>>>> The third is simply another level of indirection.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is the variables parr and pparr that are being initialized, not
>>>>> the result of dereferencing them.  Those variables have different
>>>>> types: pointer to int and pointer to array of 6 int, respectively.
>>>>> Neither of those variables is type int.
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't matter if its TYPE is int*****.
>>>> Its just a different level of indirection. The type of the array is 
>>>> INT.
>>>
>>> The type int***** is not the same as type int.  Values with different
>>> levels of indirection to the same type have different types.
>> Why would anyone suggest it was the same type? This is only your 
>> ludicrous
>> suggestion. We are talking about arrays and different levels of 
>> indirection,
>> the typeof the array is int, not int*** or int(*)[x][y][z].
>> An array of int* is not the same as a 2d array of int.
>
> You are the one who suggested that they were the same type by
> writing: "They all are int types" and "It doesn't matter if the
> TYPE is int*****."
>
I'm saying they are all arrays of the same type i.e:
int arr1[3][4]; /*Array of int type*/
int arr2[6]; /*Array of int*/
int* p1 = new int[5]; /*Array of int*/
int (*p2)[6] = new int[5][6]; /*Array of int*/

They are all int-type arrays and the identifier in each case, no matter what 
type that is, points to an array of int.

> [snip]
>
>>>>> parr does not point to the array because
>>>>> its type is not that of a pointer to an array.
>>>>
>>>> They all point to the same array. How can you not understand that, do 
>>>> you
>>>> have learning difficulties?
>>>
>>> I don't have any learning difficulties.  However, I do understand that
>>> in C++ a pointer to an int points to an int; it does not point to an
>>> array.  A pointer to an int and an pointer to an array of int are
>>> different types.
>> But you obviously don't understand that an int* can point to a single 
>> int,
>> or an array of int's. Thus it seems you have have some difficulties with
>> understanding common sense.
>> A pointer type does not define what is pointed to, what is pointed to is
>> defined by allocation.
>
> What I understand is that in C++ a pointer to an int points to an int
> and not to an array of int.
This is wrong. An int* can point to an array of ints.
It can actually point to almost anything but within reason its either 
uninitialised, null , points to int or points to array of int.

>  A pointer to an int and a pointer to an
> array of int are different types.
No they're not. Your thinking about pointer types, not what is pointed to. I 
have already said a pointer type doesn't define what is pointed to but I 
will repeat it.

>  It is not a matter of common sense;
> it is a matter of what the term "points to" means in C++.  Here is
> paragraph 1 of section 5.3.1 of the C++ standard:
I know what points to means I dont need to reference the standard to find 
out.

>
>  The unary * operator performs indirection: the expression to which
>  it is applied shall be a pointer to an object type, or a pointer
>  to a function type and the result is an lvalue referring to the
>  object or function to which the expression points. If the type of
>  the expression is pointer to T, the type of the result is T.
>  [Note: a pointer to an incomplete type (other than cv void ) can
>  be dereferenced. The lvalue thus obtained can be used in limited
>  ways (to initialize a reference, for example); this lvalue must
>  not be converted to an rvalue, see 4.1.]
>
> According to the C++ standard, the pointer type determines the
> type of the result of dereferencing the pointer
>
So the C++ standards are relevant now when talking about dereferencing 
pointers?
If you read the above in conjuction with the relevant section on arrays you 
will understand.


>>> A pointer to an int may point to any int, including one that is an
>>> element of an array of int.  However, when pointing to an element of
>>> an array of int it is pointing to an int, not an array.  When you
>>> dereference the pointer the result is an int, not an array.
>> This is where you lose all sense of logic, a pointer to an entity points
>> exactly to that entity. The pointer type does not define the pointed to
>> entity.
>
> According the the C++ standard, see the preceeding quote from the
> standard, the type of the result of dereferencing a pointer depends
> on the type of the pointer.  The result type does not depend on the
> type used when the object was allocated.
>
This does not mean the an int* cannot point to an array, If you read the 
standards properly you will understand why a pointer to an array must point 
to , the pointed to (n-1) diemnsional array.

And I though you said the standards were irellevant because we were not 
talking aobut dereferencing a pointer.

> [snip]
>
>>>>>>> The ideas I have about pointers and arrays are from the standard.
>>>>>>> Here
>>>>>>> is paragraph 1 of section 4.2 of the standard (you silently snipped
>>>>>>> the copy that was in my previous post):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  An lvalue or rvalue of type "array of N T" or "array of unknown
>>>>>>>  bound of T" can be converted to an rvalue of type "pointer to T."
>>>>>>>  The result is a pointer to the first element of the array.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A pointer to the first element of the array is not the same as a
>>>>>>> pointer
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> the array.
>>>>>> WHere does the standard state this? Or it this your addition to the
>>>>>> standard?
>>>>>
>>>>> I demonstrated why they are not the same in lines that you sliently
>>>>> snipped at this point.  Here are the snipped lines:
>>>>>
>>>> You have demonstrated nothing.
>>>
>>> It appears that you think I have demonstrated nothing even before
>>> reading the sliently snipped lines that were restored.  That is
>>> about as useful as write-only memory.
>> What exactly does SILENTLY snipped mean? Does snipping produce sound on 
>> your
>> PC?
>
> Silently snipped means removing lines of the post being followed-up
> to without indicating that the lines have been removed, such as by
> including "[snip]" in the followup.
>
>>>>>  A pointer to the first element of the array is not the same as a
>>>>> pointer
>>>>> to
>>>>>  the array.  The former has type pointer to T, that latter has type
>>>>> pointer
>>>>>  to array of N T.  If they were the same, given the declaration
>>>> A pointer to the first element of an array, is a pointer to the array.
>>>>
>>>>>    int *pi, (*pai)[1];
>>>>>
>>>>>  the assignment
>>>>>
>>>>>    pi = pai;
>>>>>
>>>>>  would be allowed, but it is not allowed.
>>>> You obviously do not understand the difference in level sof 
>>>> indirection.
>>>
>>> What C++ compiler have you used that does not give a diagnostic
>>> message about the assignment statement?
>> Your code is just wrong. I don't know what its supposed to do.
>
> What it tries to do is assign a pointer to an array of int to a
> pointer to an int.
Well thats just wrong because the pointer types are different levels if 
indirection. You convert an array into a pointer  like so :
int arr[5];
int* p = arr;

You don't take the address of an array , unless you want a different level 
of indirection. Arrays are implicitly converted to pointers.

> The fact that it is not allowed by the C++
> standard demonstrates that a pointer to an int cannot not point
> to an array of int.
It is allowed but it needs a cast.
> It can point to an element of an array of int.
> The statement
>
>  pi = &((*pai)[0]);
>
> is allowed.  It assigns a pointer to an element of an array of int
> to a pointer to an int.
>
You are either deliberately or unknowingly writing bad code.
> [snip]
>
>>>>>> If it points to the first element *OF THE ARRAY* then, by definition 
>>>>>> ,
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> points to the array.
>>>>>
>>>>> Such a definition ignores the fact that C++ pointers are typed.  The
>>>>> "it" that points is a pointer with a type.  A pointer to an element of
>>>>> an array and a pointer to an array are two different types of 
>>>>> pointers.
>>>>
>>>> No it ignores no facts, it acknowledges the relevant sections of the
>>>> standards that you think are irrelevant.
>>>
>>> The relevant sections of the standard for the statement
>>>
>>>  pi = pai;
>>>
>>> where pi and pai are declared with
>>>
>>>  int *pi, (*pai)[1];
>>>
>>> are the one about assignment operators (5.17) and the one about
>>> implict conversions (4) that it refers to.  According to those
>>> sections, that assignment, which tries have a pointer to int point
>>> to an array, is not allowed.  If pi and pai had the same type, the
>>> assignment would be allowed.
>> What is this nonsense about , your code is trash dude and you can't even
>> accept what is really the relevant sections of the standard, the sections
>> about arrays.
>
> The fact that C++ compilers reject the code demonstrates that a
> pointer to an array of int cannot be assigned to a pointer to int.
> In other words, a pointer to int cannot point to an array of int.
> What paragraph of the C++ standard states otherwise?
>
Its your code that is rejected by compilers so its your understanding that 
must be wrong.

>>>> I fully understand the difference between the types:
>>>>  int(*)[size] and int*.
>>>> I also understand that both can point to arrays, you cannot understand
>>>> this
>>>> though . You think only one type can point to an array which is ofc
>>>> against
>>>> the views of all the C++ experts.
>>>
>>> If you fully understood the difference between those types in C++,
>>> you would understand that a pointer to int cannot point to an array
>>> of int.  A term, such as "point to", used in the context of a
>>> a programming language does not necessarily have the same meaning
>>> that it has in other contexts.
>> As you refuse to accept all reason and common sense I can only appeal to
>> authority. If people like Bjarne Stroustrup say that an int* can point to 
>> a
>> single int or an array of int, and you say otherwise, who are we to 
>> believe
>> is correct? You or Bjarne Stroustrup?
>
> No one needs to believe anything that is not supported by what is
> in the C++ standard or by compliers that comply to the standard.
> Given the declaraion
>
>  int *pi, (*pai)[1];
>
> the statement
>
>  pi = pai;
>
> which attempts to have a pointer to an int point to the array of int
> (pointed to by the variable pai) is not allowed.  C++ compilers will
> issue a diagnosic message for the assignment statement.

That piece of bad code you have produced somehow suggests that Bjarne 
Stroustrup is wrong does it?

>
>
>> If the C++ standard states that , when dereferenced, an array(or pointer 
>> to
>> an array)  returns the pointed to (n-1)dimension array. Then who are we 
>> to
>> believe, you or the C++ standard?
>
> Right, in the statement
>
>  int a2i[3][5], (*pa1i)[5] = a2i;
>
> evaluating a2i in the initialization expression returns a pointer to
> a 1-dimensional array.  After the initialization pa1i points to that
> 1-dimensional array, not to a 2-dimensional array.

 a2i is implicitly converted to a pointer. The pointed to array is a 2d 
array, not a 1dim array. Where the above standards quote applies is if you 
derefernece either a2i or pa1i, eg:
*pa1i;
or
 pa1i[0];
This is dereferencing the pointer to the array, and the results of this 
dereference is an array of (n-1) dimensions , eg:
int[5];
As you can see the standard agrees perfectly with my interpretation.

If  you take pa1i and consider it a pointer to a 1d array, this fails 
because *pa1i does not produce the pointed to (n-1) dimensional array, which 
would be a single int( a zero dim array).

You are creating another level of indirection, because arr already is(or 
converts to) a pointer, under the hood. You compare this with a pointer to a 
non array object, eg:
int arr[6];
int (*p)[6] = &arr;  /*Taking address of a pointer.*/
int x =5;
int* p_x=&x; /*Creating a pointer */
You think the above is the same but its not, what you are doing is similar 
to this:
int** pp = &p_x; /*Taking address of a pointer*/

>
>>> Exactly where in the C++ standard is a statement that a pointer of
>>> another type can "point to an array", as opposed to a pointer whose
>>> type is the same as an array element type being able to point to an
>>> element of that array?
>>
>> You refuse to accept what the C++ standard says about arrays, you said it
>> was irrelevant because the statement:
>> int* p = new int[7];
>> does not contain any dereference.
>
> I accept what the C++ standard says about arrays.  I said that parts
> of the C++ standard about *dereferencing* are not relevant to a
> statement that does not contain dereferencing (I have emphasized the
> word *dereferencing* because you omitted it).
Well you have posted stuff from the standards about dereferencing pointers.
>
> I have answered your questions and cited parts of the C++ standard
> relevant to example C++ statements.  I don't know why you don't
> similarly answer my questions, including the one immediately before
> the last lines of your post.
I have answered any questins you have asked. 

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  Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-03-30 00:03 +0100
    Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-03-30 12:39 -0500
      Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-03-30 20:42 +0100
        Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-03-31 12:38 -0500
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                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-04-26 22:42 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-04-27 12:53 -0500
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-04-27 19:06 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-04-27 20:09 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-04-29 12:57 -0500
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-04-29 19:10 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-04-29 19:56 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-05-02 13:20 -0500
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-02 22:43 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-05-05 14:13 -0500
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-05 22:21 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-05-06 10:49 +1200
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-06 12:29 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-05-07 11:34 -0500
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-08 04:05 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-05-10 12:31 -0500
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-10 22:10 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-05-12 12:19 -0500
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-13 09:54 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-05-14 11:20 -0500
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-14 23:59 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-05-17 12:59 -0500
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-18 19:36 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-05-19 13:20 -0500
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-20 14:29 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-05-23 13:53 -0500
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-23 22:53 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-23 23:04 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-23 23:19 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-24 02:26 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-24 13:16 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-24 14:58 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-24 15:05 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-24 17:39 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-24 17:58 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-24 21:04 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-24 21:11 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-25 00:12 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-25 00:33 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-25 11:39 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-25 12:04 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-25 12:56 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-25 13:15 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-25 16:36 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-25 16:47 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-25 17:15 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-25 17:39 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-25 21:09 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-25 22:24 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-26 01:28 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Thomas David Rivers <rivers@dignus.com> - 2011-05-25 09:57 -0400
                Re: Problem with array objects "Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2011-05-25 16:50 +0200
                Re: Problem with array objects Thomas David Rivers <rivers@dignus.com> - 2011-05-25 12:01 -0400
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-25 16:59 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Thomas David Rivers <rivers@dignus.com> - 2011-05-25 12:56 -0400
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-25 21:46 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Thomas David Rivers <rivers@dignus.com> - 2011-05-25 20:02 -0400
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-26 01:37 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Thomas David Rivers <rivers@dignus.com> - 2011-05-26 09:08 -0400
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-26 15:19 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Thomas David Rivers <rivers@dignus.com> - 2011-05-26 14:45 -0400
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-26 21:02 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Thomas David Rivers <rivers@dignus.com> - 2011-05-27 09:34 -0400
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-27 14:46 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Thomas David Rivers <rivers@dignus.com> - 2011-05-27 15:07 -0400
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-27 21:42 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Thomas David Rivers <rivers@dignus.com> - 2011-05-27 19:34 -0400
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-28 01:24 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Thomas David Rivers <rivers@dignus.com> - 2011-05-28 10:58 -0400
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-28 19:41 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Thomas David Rivers <rivers@dignus.com> - 2011-05-28 20:38 -0400
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-29 12:32 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Thomas David Rivers <rivers@dignus.com> - 2011-05-29 10:05 -0400
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-29 20:13 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Thomas David Rivers <rivers@dignus.com> - 2011-05-29 19:38 -0400
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-30 17:01 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Thomas David Rivers <rivers@dignus.com> - 2011-05-31 09:45 -0400
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-31 20:33 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Thomas David Rivers <rivers@dignus.com> - 2011-06-01 09:57 -0400
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 15:53 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 16:46 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 19:44 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 19:59 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 21:41 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 22:10 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 22:39 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 23:21 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 23:32 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Thomas David Rivers <rivers@dignus.com> - 2011-06-01 12:33 -0400
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 19:18 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 19:38 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 20:10 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 20:18 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 22:01 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 22:25 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 22:43 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-02 09:49 +1200
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 23:27 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-02 00:26 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-06-02 00:33 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-02 08:52 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Thomas David Rivers <rivers@dignus.com> - 2011-06-01 15:37 -0400
                Re: Problem with array objects Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-02 07:46 +1200
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 21:22 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Pete Becker <pete@versatilecoding.com> - 2011-06-01 10:31 -1000
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 22:10 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-02 09:28 +1200
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 22:59 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-06-01 15:05 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 23:35 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-02 10:51 +1200
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-02 00:28 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-06-01 16:33 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-02 09:03 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-06-02 01:23 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2011-06-02 17:31 +0900
                Re: Problem with array objects Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-06-02 01:39 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects Pete Becker <pete@versatilecoding.com> - 2011-06-01 11:28 -1000
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 22:54 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Pete Becker <pete@versatilecoding.com> - 2011-06-01 12:08 -1000
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 23:41 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-06-01 14:56 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 23:17 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 23:17 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-06-01 15:32 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 23:58 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-06-01 16:31 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-02 08:50 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 21:05 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Thomas David Rivers <rivers@dignus.com> - 2011-06-01 16:38 -0400
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 22:20 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-06-01 14:42 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-05-27 17:44 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-28 03:11 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2011-05-28 19:21 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-29 12:50 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2011-05-29 07:21 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-29 15:30 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-29 20:43 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-29 21:51 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-31 03:08 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Pete Becker <pete@versatilecoding.com> - 2011-05-30 17:39 -1000
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-31 06:05 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Pete Becker <pete@versatilecoding.com> - 2011-05-31 09:38 -1000
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-31 20:50 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects SG <s.gesemann@gmail.com> - 2011-05-31 02:23 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-31 13:29 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Fred Zwarts \(KVI\)" <F.Zwarts@KVI.nl> - 2011-05-31 15:17 +0200
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-31 20:43 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Michael Doubez <michael.doubez@free.fr> - 2011-05-31 02:43 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-31 14:38 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-31 20:45 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-31 21:11 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 10:23 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects gwowen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2011-06-01 03:08 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 15:59 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 13:45 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 14:23 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 16:02 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 16:33 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 19:52 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 20:02 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Pete Becker <pete@versatilecoding.com> - 2011-06-01 09:16 -1000
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 21:00 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Pete Becker <pete@versatilecoding.com> - 2011-06-01 10:09 -1000
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 22:31 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Pete Becker <pete@versatilecoding.com> - 2011-06-01 11:58 -1000
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 23:21 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects crisgoogle <crisd@telus.net> - 2011-06-01 16:22 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-02 00:48 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects crisgoogle <crisd@telus.net> - 2011-06-02 11:06 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-02 19:58 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects crisgoogle <crisd@telus.net> - 2011-06-02 13:28 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-03 01:16 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects crisgoogle <crisd@telus.net> - 2011-06-02 18:51 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects PaulR <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-03 04:59 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 23:21 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-06-01 14:46 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects Michael Doubez <michael.doubez@free.fr> - 2011-06-01 00:46 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-29 20:29 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-05-29 23:11 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-05-25 08:15 +1200
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-24 22:23 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-05-24 17:01 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-25 11:48 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects gwowen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2011-05-25 04:06 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-05-25 13:50 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2011-05-25 19:03 +0200
                Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-05-25 12:44 -0500
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-25 21:04 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-25 22:20 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-26 11:00 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-26 12:07 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-26 13:09 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-05-26 09:32 +1200
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-26 11:10 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-05-26 23:07 +1200
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-26 13:22 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-26 14:14 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-26 15:27 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-26 15:52 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-26 16:45 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-26 17:04 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-26 17:41 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-05-27 07:44 +1200
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-26 21:10 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-05-27 09:05 +1200
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-27 00:15 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-05-27 11:32 +1200
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-27 01:39 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-27 01:56 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-05-27 13:18 +1200
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-27 11:06 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-05-27 22:28 +1200
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-27 12:51 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-27 13:58 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-27 14:34 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-27 15:14 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-27 15:18 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-27 15:24 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-27 15:31 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-27 15:53 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-27 16:18 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-27 20:35 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-27 21:23 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-27 22:04 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-27 22:15 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-28 00:40 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-28 00:53 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-28 01:32 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-28 01:49 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-05-28 13:17 +1200
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-28 03:29 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-05-28 15:35 +1200
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-28 12:24 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-05-29 08:21 +1200
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-28 22:04 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-05-29 09:17 +1200
                Re: Problem with array objects Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-05-29 09:32 +1200
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-28 22:58 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-05-29 10:06 +1200
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-28 23:51 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-28 03:20 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-28 12:34 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-28 12:56 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-28 13:49 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-28 14:48 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-28 15:10 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-28 19:35 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-28 19:59 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-28 20:17 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-28 20:44 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-28 21:00 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-28 22:07 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-05-26 14:38 -0500
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-26 21:15 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-05-27 12:43 -0500
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-27 20:20 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-05-28 11:41 -0500
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-28 19:10 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-05-31 12:26 -0500
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-31 20:49 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-06-01 12:46 -0500
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-01 20:26 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-06-02 12:36 -0500
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-02 20:23 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Pete Becker <pete@versatilecoding.com> - 2011-06-02 10:34 -1000
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-03 01:41 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Pete Becker <pete@versatilecoding.com> - 2011-06-02 16:06 -1000
                Re: Problem with array objects Pete Becker <pete@versatilecoding.com> - 2011-06-02 16:12 -1000
                Re: Problem with array objects Pete Becker <pete@versatilecoding.com> - 2011-06-02 16:21 -1000
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-03 14:17 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects hanukas <jukka@liimatta.org> - 2011-06-04 10:34 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects hanukas <jukka@liimatta.org> - 2011-06-04 10:45 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-04 21:02 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects hanukas <jukka@liimatta.org> - 2011-06-04 14:11 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-04 22:35 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects hanukas <jukka@liimatta.org> - 2011-06-04 15:43 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2011-06-05 06:39 +0200
                Re: Problem with array objects "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2011-06-05 07:55 +0200
                Re: Problem with array objects "Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2011-06-03 11:14 +0200
                Re: Problem with array objects Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-03 21:08 +1200
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-03 14:25 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects hanukas <jukka@liimatta.org> - 2011-06-04 10:52 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-06-04 19:52 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-06-05 13:48 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-05 14:52 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Thomas J. Gritzan" <phygon_antispam@gmx.de> - 2011-06-05 18:03 +0200
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-05 19:23 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-05 14:49 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-06-03 12:37 -0500
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-03 19:49 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-06-04 11:46 -0500
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-04 18:42 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-06-06 14:27 -0500
                Re: Problem with array objects Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-06-06 14:04 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-06-06 14:04 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-07 02:26 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects hanukas <jukka@liimatta.org> - 2011-06-06 23:30 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-07 13:13 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects hanukas <jukka@liimatta.org> - 2011-06-08 01:20 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-08 11:39 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-06-08 17:03 -0500
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-08 23:51 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-06-11 11:41 -0500
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-12 00:56 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-06-14 13:44 -0500
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-14 23:01 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-06-16 13:41 -0500
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-16 23:01 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-06-18 12:23 -0500
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-18 19:50 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-06-21 13:38 -0500
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-22 00:29 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Keith H Duggar <duggar@alum.mit.edu> - 2011-06-18 12:58 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-06-21 13:40 -0500
                Re: Problem with array objects Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-05-10 15:56 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-05-11 12:25 +1200
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-11 10:56 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-05-11 14:09 -0700
                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-12 13:31 +0100
                Re: Problem with array objects Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-04-11 14:27 -0700

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