Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh!

Subject	Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh!
Newsgroups	sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
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From	Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com>
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Date	2018-10-15 16:09 +0100

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On 13/10/2018 16:08, Keith Stein wrote:
> 
> http://www.sci-news.com/astronomy/science-universe-not-expanding-01940.html
> 
> "The scientists carefully compared the size and brightness of about a 
> thousand nearby and extremely distant galaxies. They chose the most 
> luminous spiral galaxies for comparisons, matching the average 
> luminosity of the near and far samples.
> 
> Contrary to the prediction of the Big Bang theory, they found that the 
> surface brightnesses of the near and far galaxies are identical.
> 
> These results are consistent with what would be expected from ordinary 
> geometry if the Universe was not expanding, and are in contradiction 
> with the drastic dimming of surface brightness predicted by the 
> expanding Universe hypothesis."
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 24/03/2018 08:36, Keith Stein wrote:
>  > Searching for an alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts, it
>  > occurred to me that if the speed of light is slowing down, then this
>  > will necessarily lead to increasing red-shift with increasing
>  > distance, as observed by Hubble et. al., without any expansion at all.
>  >
>  > Merely by assuming      dc = -K c dt ..................(1)
>  > I was led to             c = c(0) e^-Kt ...............(2)
>  > and on to               Red-Shift = e^-Kt - 1 .........(3)
>  >
>  >      K ~= 10^-10 /year
>  >      t = time in years
>  >
>  > Only after starting the PHYSICS PRIZE thread, in which i was trying to
>  > enlist the help of sci.physics.relativity readers to obtain a more
>  > accurate value of K, did the obvious solution occur to me...........
>  >
>  >                         K = H = Hubble's Constant
>  > and                    t = -t  ( so times past become +ve)
>  >
>  > which substituted in (3) gives:
>  >
>  >              Red-Shift = e^Ht - 1 .........(4)
>  >
>  > then for times which are small compared to 1/H (i.e. small compared
>  > to the 'age of the universe'), we may use the approximation:
>  >              e^x ~= 1 + x .................(5)
>  >
>  > So for t << 1/H we have:
>  >
>  >              Red-Shift = H * t ............(6)
>  >
>  > which is of course the normal "Hubble's Law", valid only
>  > for modest times into the past ( t < ~5 billion years).
>  >
>  > As our telescopes manage to see further out into space, and therefore 
>  > further back in time, we will find that the normal linear Hubble's 
> Law > expressed in equation(6), will have to be replaced by the more
>  > accurate exponential form expressed in equation(4). This is indeed
>  > what is found  in observatories all around the world eh!
> 
> 
> 
> wikepedia wrote:
> "We currently appear to be approaching a period where the expansion is
>   exponential due to the increasing dominance of vacuum energy. In this
>   regime, the Hubble parameter is constant, and the universe grows by a
>   factor e each Hubble time:"
> 
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubble%27s_law#Observed_values_of_the_Hubble_constant 
> 


Sans Mots eh!

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Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-13 16:08 +0100
  Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-13 10:49 -0700
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                Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 11:00 -0700
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  Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-10-13 13:48 -0700
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            Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 23:06 +0000
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    Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-13 23:17 -0400
      Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 13:10 -0700
  Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 16:09 +0100
  Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 12:37 +0100
    Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 08:43 -0700
    Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 12:14 -0400
      Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 17:51 +0100
        Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 13:32 -0400
          Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 20:13 +0100
            Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 15:50 -0400
              Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-18 10:27 +0100
                Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-18 07:56 -0700
                Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-18 22:35 +0000
                Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-18 22:52 +0000
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                Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 02:05 +0000
                Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 02:07 +0000
                Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 22:02 -0700
                Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 10:35 +0000
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                Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 06:59 -0700
                Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 16:09 +0000
                Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-26 10:33 -0700
                Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-25 16:30 +0000
                Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 10:02 -0700
                Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 22:09 +0000
                Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-26 04:02 -0700
                Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-26 17:48 +0000
                Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-26 11:15 -0700
                Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-26 11:52 -0700
                Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-26 22:53 +0000
                Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 06:56 -0700
                Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-26 10:27 -0700
                Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-18 12:30 -0400
              Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-10-19 10:27 -0700
    Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-17 16:50 +0000
      Re: Universe NO T Ex p a n d i n g eh! Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-10-18 10:40 +0100

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