Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding

From	"Tony Marston" <TonyMarston@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.php
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Subject	Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding
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Date	2012-11-03 09:28 +0000

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"Jerry Stuckle"  wrote in message news:k70buo$2bo$1@dont-email.me...
>
>On 11/2/2012 7:34 AM, Goran wrote:
>> On 2.11.2012 11:48, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> You wouldn't know a good design if it was shown to you, spammer.
>>
>> And why is that? Why are you acting like a mad man?
>>
>
>If he really wanted to start a discussion, he would have started it on 
>usenet, in an appropriate newsgroup (database design is NOT a PHP topic!).
>
>His only purpose in posting here was to spam his site.  He must have run 
>out of suckers who were willing to pay him (again).  Just look at his site 
>and you can see how his overly-inflated ego doesn't let him realize how 
>stoopid he looks to knowledgeable people - or what a piece of crap his 
>"rapid development tool" really is.
>
>But then Tony is well-known here for all of the above.
>

It *IS* a PHP topic for the simple reason that almost every PHP program 
accesses a database, and most databases are designed by the programmer 
him/herself. What I have attempted to do in my article is identify those 
design decisions which are not actually as good as the designer thinks they 
are. Bad designs cause the programmer to write extra code which should not 
be necessary. If you follow good design practices you can end up writing 
less code, or even have that code generated for you so that you don't even 
have to write it. Which do you think is the better idea - writing 
unnecessary code, or having that code generated for you?

This should be a topic of interest for all programmers in general, and PHP 
programmers in particular (after all, I have been designing and developing 
business applications using PHP for the last 10 years or so).

Instead of your usual personal attacks why don't you show the depth of your 
intelligence and experience by actually responding to the 14 points 
contained in my article? Or is that beyond your capabilities?

-- 
Tony Marston

http://www.tonymarston.net
http://www.radicore.org

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Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "Tony Marston" <TonyMarston@hotmail.com> - 2012-11-02 07:12 +0000
  Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-11-02 09:53 +0100
    Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "Tony Marston" <TonyMarston@hotmail.com> - 2012-11-03 09:14 +0000
      Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-11-03 18:01 +0100
        Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-11-03 15:03 -0400
        Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "Tony Marston" <TonyMarston@hotmail.com> - 2012-11-04 10:11 +0000
          Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2012-11-04 14:37 -0600
      Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-11-03 19:00 +0100
        Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "Tony Marston" <TonyMarston@hotmail.com> - 2012-11-04 10:18 +0000
          Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-11-04 07:29 -0500
  Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-11-02 06:48 -0400
    Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Goran <goran@nospam.com> - 2012-11-02 12:34 +0100
      Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-11-02 07:48 -0400
        Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "Tony Marston" <TonyMarston@hotmail.com> - 2012-11-03 09:28 +0000
          Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2012-11-03 10:56 +0100
            Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "Tony Marston" <TonyMarston@hotmail.com> - 2012-11-04 10:09 +0000
              Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-11-04 07:32 -0500
              Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2012-11-04 16:45 +0100
          Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-11-03 10:52 -0400
      Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-11-02 11:56 +0000
    Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "Tony Marston" <TonyMarston@hotmail.com> - 2012-11-03 09:17 +0000
      Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-11-03 10:54 -0400
        Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Luuk <luuk@invalid.lan> - 2012-11-03 16:06 +0100
          Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-11-03 11:25 -0400
  Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2012-11-02 11:13 +0000
    Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "Tony Marston" <TonyMarston@hotmail.com> - 2012-11-03 09:31 +0000
      Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2012-11-03 13:08 +0000
        Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-11-03 10:55 -0400
        Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "Tony Marston" <TonyMarston@hotmail.com> - 2012-11-04 10:04 +0000
  Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Luuk <luuk@invalid.lan> - 2012-11-03 11:04 +0100
    Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "Tony Marston" <TonyMarston@hotmail.com> - 2012-11-04 10:30 +0000
  Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Erwin Moller <erwinmollerusenet@xs4all.nl> - 2012-11-15 15:49 +0100
    Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2012-11-15 12:03 -0600

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