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Re: It's about the Butterfly Effect

Subject Re: It's about the Butterfly Effect
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From Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid>
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Date 2026-11-02 14:29 +0800

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On 11/1/2026 5:32 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> wrote or quoted:
>> I don't think it was a /small price to pay/.  I mean, I don't want to
>> kill people.
> 
>    We don't know whether even more people would have been killed
>    if he had /not/ written that book. So that causal connection
>    is our /attribution/.
> 
>    Marx could not possibly anticipate all effects of his book.
>    But saying he "killed" people sounds as if he had intended
>    the effect of people dying.
> 
>    Someone gets killed in a car accident. That car was only there because
>    another man before decided to use his usual route to work, which indi-
>    rectly delayed the first car a bit, otherwise there would have been no
>    accident. So did the other man "kill" the first man? Oh, I only now
>    see this topic already is labeled, "It's about the Butterfly Effect".

Well, that's bickering over past history, or crying over spilled milk.

The people who did the insurrections, and subsequently put incompetent
people in charge of food production -- with aforementioned consequences
-- used Karl's book.  Had they used some other book for the same purpose
we would be making fun of that connection, and not this one.

The sad reality is that this happened more than once, using Karl's book.
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It's about the Butterfly Effect Blaine <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-26 20:18 -0600
  Re: It's about the Butterfly Effect Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-28 23:47 +0800
    Re: It's about the Butterfly Effect Blaine <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-31 18:59 -0600
      Re: It's about the Butterfly Effect Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-11-01 17:04 +0800
        Re: It's about the Butterfly Effect ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-11-01 09:32 +0000
          Re: It's about the Butterfly Effect Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-11-02 14:29 +0800
        Re: It's about the Butterfly Effect Blaine <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-11-01 14:12 -0700
  Re: It's about the Butterfly Effect The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-31 21:40 -0700
    Re: It's about the Butterfly Effect The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-31 21:49 -0700

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