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Re: RMS Primer for Fakey (was: Re: James McGinn pictures of his dog and sister w Claudius Denk in Portland)

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In article <op.yd0peigjtm21m2@benson.localhost>, root@127.0.0.1 says...


> 
> On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 12:34:18 -0500, Mustaffa Sheboygan
> <Lunatic.Fringe@the.edge> wrote:
> 
> > In article <2p8tdblfb94mb10tdkivp0j2srntdb9lqj@4ax.com>,
> > bender@the.future says...
> >
> >
> >>
> >> snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
> >>
> >> > Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > "Fakey's" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave.,
> >> Pittsburgh, PA
> >> > > > (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue,
> >> Pittsburgh, PA
> >> > > > 15206-2117 <root@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > [...]
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > >> the difference between peak and RMS values,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Oh, I know the difference, in fact, I proved it *and* used the
> >> > > > > > Euler-Fourier Formula to derive RMS L-N voltage
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > the fuck?  you didn't derive anything.  you took the RMS value
> >> and, for
> >> > > > > some reason, factored it into a sine wave plot like a complete
> >> idiot noob
> >> > > > > would.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > from peak L-N voltage,
> >> > > > > > then used the same equation to derive RMS L-L voltage from
> >> that RMS
> >> > > > > > L-N voltage... something none of you morons have been able to
> >> > > > > > accomplish.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > funny.  you never bothered to show us the exact full equations
> >> that you
> >> > > > > graphed, for some reason.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > Aren't you the moron who k'lamed that RMS voltage doesn't
> >> fluctuate,
> >> > > > > > and is thus DC? Yeah... yeah you are.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > RMS is a power average estimate, not a sine wave.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > [...]
> >> > > >
> >> > > > PMFJI
> >> > > >
> >> > > > It's apparent that Fakey just doesn't comprehend the meaning
> >> > > > of Root Mean Square or why we use it. Let me see if I can explain
> >> > > > it to him in simple terms:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Because an AC power voltage waveform normally swings from negative
> >> > > > to positive and back equally either side of zero, its simple mean
> >> > > > is zero. Such a result is of use to neither man nor aspiring
> >> > > > electrical engineering pundit.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > So: square the waveform. The squared positive half of each cycle
> >> > > > is still positive but the negative half, when squared, becomes
> >> > > > positive too. -1 multiplied by -1 equals +1, remember?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Now take the mean of the squared waveform -- this will now be a
> >> > > > positive quantity. Because you've squared everything you now have
> >> > > > to "unsquare" it again; take the root of that mean and you have
> >> RMS.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > It's a \\mean\\ value, \\not\\ a waveform; root MEAN square,
> >> geddit?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > HTH HAND HORSE
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Good explanation.  And the other reason for calculating RMS
> >> > > is that it works in Ohm's law for power, ie,
> >> > >
> >> > > P = voltage(RMS) * current(RMS) * cos(phase angle between
> >> > > them)
> >> > >
> >> > > Even Fakey could understand, if he tried.  He will try ever
> >> > > so hard not to, and bleat that you think RMS is DC (which is
> >> > > closer to truth than his limited understanding is).
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > I assume that Fakey has read this:-
> >> >
> >> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_mean_square>
> >> >
> >> > It escapes me as to how he could possibly misunderstand the
> >> > concept of the quadratic mean; ergo, it's just another torll.
> >>
> >> He probably referenced it a few times without understanding
> >> that it flatly contradicted his bleation-du-jour.
> >>
> >> When you're wrong as often as fakey is, some selective
> >> misunderstanding goes a long way in protecting your
> >> delusions from the cold wrath of reality.
> >
> > Stop beating Fakey up with his own arrogant stupidity!  Have you no
> > sense of pity... or mercy?
> >
> 
> what a bunch of mean squares!

Let's all root for Fakey!

<pom-poms>

-- 
Mustaffa Sheboygan

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Re: RMS Primer for Fakey (was: Re: James McGinn pictures of his dog and sister w Claudius Denk in Portland) Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-08 09:34 -0800
  Re: RMS Primer for Fakey (was: Re: James McGinn pictures of his dog and sister w Claudius Denk in Portland) "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-03-08 12:55 -0500
    Re: RMS Primer for Fakey (was: Re: James McGinn pictures of his dog and sister w Claudius Denk in Portland) Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-09 02:08 +0800
    Re: RMS Primer for Fakey (was: Re: James McGinn pictures of his dog and sister w Claudius Denk in Portland) Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-08 11:54 -0800
  Re: RMS Primer for Fakey (was: Re: James McGinn pictures of his dog and sister w Claudius Denk in Portland) Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-09 02:07 +0800
    Re: RMS Primer for Fakey (was: Re: James McGinn pictures of his dog and sister w Claudius Denk in Portland) "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-03-08 13:11 -0500
    Re: RMS Primer for Fakey (was: Re: James McGinn pictures of his dog and sister w Claudius Denk in Portland) Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-08 11:58 -0800
  Re: RMS Primer for Fakey snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-03-08 19:11 +0000
    Re: RMS Primer for Fakey Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-08 11:59 -0800
      Re: RMS Primer for Fakey Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-09 04:05 +0800
        Re: RMS Primer for Fakey snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-03-08 20:14 +0000
          Re: RMS Primer for Fakey Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-09 04:25 +0800
            Re: RMS Primer for Fakey snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-03-08 20:27 +0000
              Re: RMS Primer for Fakey Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-09 04:51 +0800
                Re: RMS Primer for Fakey snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-03-08 21:00 +0000
            Re: RMS Primer for Fakey Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-08 12:31 -0800
              Re: RMS Primer for Fakey Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-09 04:47 +0800
              Re: RMS Primer for Fakey snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-03-08 20:52 +0000
                Re: RMS Primer for Fakey Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-08 14:35 -0700
                Re: RMS Primer for Fakey Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-09 05:41 +0800
                Re: RMS Primer for Fakey Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-08 14:37 -0700
              Re: RMS Primer for Fakey "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-03-08 19:00 -0500
                Re: RMS Primer for Fakey Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-08 17:37 -0700
                Re: RMS Primer for Fakey Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-08 19:15 -0800
      Re: RMS Primer for Fakey snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-03-08 20:13 +0000

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