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Bug#1108542: openssh-server: Debian Trixie: bad dependancy with systemd*

From Jean-Marc LACROIX <jeanmarc.lacroix@free.fr>
Newsgroups linux.debian.bugs.dist
Subject Bug#1108542: openssh-server: Debian Trixie: bad dependancy with systemd*
Date 2025-07-27 11:30 +0200
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Le 30/06/2025 à 22:50, Colin Watson a écrit :
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at 10:41:15PM +0200, Jean-Marc LACROIX wrote:
>> It seems that  on package openssh-server, there is  now one dependency
>> with systemd on Debian Trixie (release 13).
>>
>> This feature is  not compatible with one  target running sysvinit-core
>> in place of systemd.
> [...]
>> REMOVING:
>>  openssh-server*  systemd-standalone-sysusers*
> 
> But:
> 
> Package: systemd-standalone-sysusers
> Description: standalone sysusers binary for use in non-systemd systems
>   Standalone sysusers binary with minimal dependencies.
>   This package conflicts with the main systemd package and is meant for 
> use in
>   non-systemd systems.
> 
> Is this actually a problem for any reason other than you having removed 
> everything matching "systemd*"?  As indicated, this particular package 
> should be fine even if you're running sysvinit.
> 
> An alternative, if you so wish, is to install the opensysusers package 
> instead.  openssh-server's dependencies allow that (since it Provides: 
> systemd-sysusers).
> 

Hello Colin,

Thank you very much for your suggestion to never remove systemd*. I've 
added the exact list of dedicated "systemd" packages, making it easier 
to manage, to my Ansible YAML list.

It works perfectly.

For my own understanding, could you confirm that 
"systemd-standalone-sysusers" is a recent Debian package, built on 
Debian Bookworm , and not available on old Debian release. (< 9).


Therefore, i must make some trivial code to manage this feature on old 
Debian release ?

Thanks to close this bug at now.

Best regards
-- 
   -- Jean-Marc LACROIX  () --
     -- mailto : jeanmarc.lacroix@free.fr   --

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Bug#1108542: openssh-server: Debian Trixie: bad dependancy with systemd* Jean-Marc LACROIX <jeanmarc.lacroix@free.fr> - 2025-06-30 22:50 +0200
  Bug#1108542: openssh-server: Debian Trixie: bad dependancy with systemd* Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org> - 2025-06-30 23:00 +0200
    Bug#1108542: openssh-server: Debian Trixie: bad dependancy with systemd* Jean-Marc LACROIX <jeanmarc.lacroix@free.fr> - 2025-07-27 11:30 +0200

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