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Re: MBF: Removal of iptables-legacy

From Tianon Gravi <tianon@debian.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.devel, linux.debian.kernel
Subject Re: MBF: Removal of iptables-legacy
Date 2025-11-25 02:10 +0100
Message-ID <LUPJ7-fwib-3@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink)
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On Sun, 23 Nov 2025 at 02:15, Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> wrote:
> The Debian Kernel team decided to deprecate and remove support for the
> legacy interfaces used by iptables, arptables and ebtables from the
> kernel.  The replacement nftables compatibility layer was introduced
> around 2016.  It is finally time to try and get rid of the legacy
> interfaces, which are now disabled by default in the kernel.
>
> Our plan is to drop usage in all packages and the binaries for forky.
> We will then go and remove the kernel support itself after the release
> of forky.  So in forky, using legacy iptables will still work, but
> Debian will not provide any support and consider it deprecated.
>
> There are some packages that hardcode the use of iptables-legacy.  In
> those cases just using the non-legacy counterparts should work.  It just
> needs a reboot to get rid of the old incompatible rules loaded into the
> kernel.

Thanks for the src:docker.io heads-up!  However, I think this is a
false positive:

https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=iptables-legacy+pkg%3Adocker.io&literal=1

(only 4 hits, two of which are Dockerfiles that aren't used in the
package build at all, nor shipped in the builds, and two in the
d/changelog -- even less hits for "ip6tables-legacy" and zero for
"ebtables-legacy")

♥,
- Tianon

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MBF: Removal of iptables-legacy Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2025-11-23 11:20 +0100
  Re: MBF: Removal of iptables-legacy Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org> - 2025-11-23 16:20 +0100
    Re: MBF: Removal of iptables-legacy Vincent Danjean <vdanjean.ml@free.fr> - 2025-11-23 17:00 +0100
      Re: MBF: Removal of iptables-legacy Lucas Castro <lucas@gnuabordo.com.br> - 2025-11-24 17:20 +0100
        Re: MBF: Removal of iptables-legacy Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2025-11-24 17:50 +0100
          Re: MBF: Removal of iptables-legacy Lucas Castro <lucas@gnuabordo.com.br> - 2025-11-24 18:00 +0100
    nft gripe (was: MBF: Removal of iptables-legacy) Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2025-11-23 17:30 +0100
    Re: MBF: Removal of iptables-legacy Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2025-11-23 17:50 +0100
      Re: MBF: Removal of iptables-legacy Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org> - 2025-11-24 15:20 +0100
  Re: MBF: Removal of iptables-legacy Tianon Gravi <tianon@debian.org> - 2025-11-25 02:10 +0100
  Re: MBF: Removal of iptables-legacy Andrea Bolognani <eof@kiyuko.org> - 2026-01-07 02:50 +0100
    Re: MBF: Removal of iptables-legacy Jeremy Sowden <azazel@debian.org> - 2026-01-07 09:20 +0100

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