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Re: Howto: make Black Lives matter

From "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net>
Newsgroups can.politics, soc.culture.african.american, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, tx.general, alt.prisons
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Subject Re: Howto: make Black Lives matter
Date 2016-10-01 21:25 -0500
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"Bud Frawley"  wrote in message
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> thank's for proveing all republicon's want's to bring back slavery! in
> case you did'nt no most of the people in prison are black!when you force
> black's to work against there will it's a little thing called slavery!
> maybe you heard of it in home school! thank's for calling for a return to
> jim crow!you people make me want to puke!

Crops stretch to the horizon. Black bodies pepper the landscape, hunched
over as they work the fields. Officers on horseback, armed, oversee the
workers. To the untrained eye, the scenes in Angola for Life: Rehabilitation
and Reform Inside the Louisiana State Penitentiary, a documentary filmed on
an old Southern slave-plantation-turned-prison, could have been shot 150
years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ABpWhY5Xzk

Some viewers of the video might be surprised to learn that inmates at
Angola, once cleared by the prison doctor, can be forced to work under
threat of punishment as severe as solitary confinement. Legally, this labor
may be totally uncompensated; more typically inmates are paid meagerly—as
little as two cents per hour—for their full-time work in the fields,
manufacturing warehouses, or kitchens. How is this legal? Didn’t the
Thirteenth Amendment abolish all forms of slavery and involuntary servitude
in this country?

Not quite. In the shining promise of freedom that was the Thirteenth
Amendment, a sharp exception was carved out. Section 1 of the Amendment
provides: “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as punishment
for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist
within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.”
Simply put: Incarcerated persons have no constitutional rights in this
arena; they can be forced to work as punishment for their crimes.

Would it be preferable to pay them minimum wage, then dock them daily for 
room & board, resulting likely in a deficit at the end of their sentence 
they would be required to pay back?

I fail to see how people who are mostly unskilled and undisciplined and not 
ready for work are harmed by being given a skill and discipline and basic 
work skills. I would be in favor of forced education as well. 

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Howto: make Black Lives matter Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> - 2016-10-01 05:15 +0000
  Re: Howto: make Black Lives matter "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> - 2016-10-01 13:44 -0500
    Re: Howto: make Black Lives matter Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> - 2016-10-01 19:59 +0000
    Re: Howto: make Black Lives matter Bud Frawley <bfrawl@aggregate.com> - 2016-10-01 15:57 -0500
      Re: Howto: make Black Lives matter Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> - 2016-10-01 21:23 +0000
      Re: Howto: make Black Lives matter "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> - 2016-10-01 21:25 -0500
    Re: Howto: make Black Lives matter "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> - 2016-10-01 21:38 -0500
      Re: Howto: make Black Lives matter "Hot-Text" <hot-text@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-03 22:20 -0500
  Re: Howto: make Black Lives matter "Liberals are VERMIN!" <rander3128@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 20:36 -0700
    Re: Howto: make Black Lives matter "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> - 2016-10-02 15:01 -0500
  Re: Howto: make Black Lives matter Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> - 2016-11-03 17:21 +0000
    Re: Howto: make Black Lives matter Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2016-11-03 15:39 -0400
    Re: Re: Howto: make Black Lives matter Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-03 16:27 -0500
      Re: Re: Howto: make Black Lives matter Greg Carr <gregcarrsober@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 01:06 -0700

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