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Bug#1115317: call for votes

From Paul Tagliamonte <paultag@debian.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.bugs.dist
Subject Bug#1115317: call for votes
Date 2025-10-03 15:30 +0200
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On Thu, Oct 02, 2025 at 02:31:15PM +0100, Matthew Vernon wrote:
>> 1) This change to systemd must persist until a satisfactory migration
>> of impacted software has occurred and Policy updated accordingly.
>>
>> 2) This change to systemd must persist until Policy has been updated
>> to allow otherwise.
>>
>> 3) This change to systemd must persist until the TC allows otherwise,
>> which the TC expects to do once a suitable transition plan has been
>> agreed.

The /var/lock change is a good change for us to target. We can't do it 
without coordinating a transition[1]. I look forward to this change
to the distro, and think it's a good thing for the ecosystem to move to.  
I'm happy to see this change in general.

Because I don't like the idea of TC being involved on an ongoing basis 
with implementation *and* transition, so i'd rather be clear on the 
acceptable end-state and let the project work it out - I vote:

A > C > B > N

[1]: The Release Team considers everything a transition where the upload 
      of a package requires changes (rebuilds or actual patches) to reverse 
      dependencies. (from https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ReleaseTeam/Transitions)

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Bug#1115317: advice for using /var/lock (which is a link to /run/lock) (#1110981) Thorsten Alteholz <debian@alteholz.de> - 2025-09-15 16:50 +0200
  Bug#1115317: advice for using /var/lock (which is a link to /run/lock) (#1110981) Bdale Garbee <bdale@gag.com> - 2025-09-15 19:10 +0200
  Bug#1115317: advice for using /var/lock (which is a link to /run/lock) (#1110981) Matthew Vernon <matthew@debian.org> - 2025-09-24 11:10 +0200
    Bug#1115317: advice for using /var/lock (which is a link to /run/lock) (#1110981) Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT> - 2025-09-25 19:30 +0200
      Bug#1115317: Draft Ballot Re: Bug#1115317: advice for using /var/lock (which is a link to /run/lock) (#1110981) Matthew Vernon <matthew@debian.org> - 2025-09-29 19:10 +0200
        Bug#1115317: Draft Ballot Re: Bug#1115317: advice for using /var/lock (which is a link to /run/lock) (#1110981) Matthew Vernon <matthew@debian.org> - 2025-09-30 00:10 +0200
  Bug#1115317: call for votes Matthew Vernon <matthew@debian.org> - 2025-10-02 15:30 +0200
    Bug#1115317: call for votes Matthew Vernon <matthew@debian.org> - 2025-10-02 15:40 +0200
      Bug#1115317: call for votes Paul Tagliamonte <paultag@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 15:30 +0200
    Bug#1115317: call for votes Stefano Rivera <stefanor@debian.org> - 2025-10-04 18:00 +0200
    Bug#1115317: call for votes Timo Röhling <roehling@debian.org> - 2025-10-05 13:20 +0200
    Bug#1115317: call for votes Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org> - 2025-10-06 19:10 +0200
    Bug#1115317: call for votes Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2025-10-06 23:50 +0200
    Bug#1115317: call for votes Christoph Berg <myon@debian.org> - 2025-10-07 14:50 +0200
  Bug#1115317: call for votes Craig <csmall@debian.org> - 2025-10-06 23:00 +0200
    Bug#1115317: call for votes Matthew Vernon <matthew@debian.org> - 2025-10-06 23:30 +0200
  Bug#1115317: Technical Committee resolution on /var/lock and systemd Matthew Vernon <matthew@debian.org> - 2025-10-07 11:10 +0200
    Bug#1110980: Bug#1115317: Technical Committee resolution on /var/lock and systemd Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2025-10-07 14:00 +0200
      Bug#1110980: Bug#1115317: Technical Committee resolution on /var/lock and systemd Santiago Vila <sanvila@debian.org> - 2025-10-07 14:30 +0200
      Bug#1110980: Bug#1115317: Technical Committee resolution on /var/lock and systemd Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2025-10-07 19:30 +0200
        Bug#1115317: Technical Committee resolution on /var/lock and systemd Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2025-10-07 19:30 +0200
      Bug#1110980: Bug#1115317: Technical Committee resolution on /var/lock and systemd Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT> - 2025-10-07 22:10 +0200

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