Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > linux.debian.vote > #5141

Re: Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation)

From Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.vote
Subject Re: Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation)
Date 2025-04-06 13:30 +0200
Message-ID <Kywmm-bwIf-19@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink)
References (1 earlier) <Ky9g5-bgoU-11@gated-at.bofh.it> <KyhGF-bmjC-9@gated-at.bofh.it> <KyjIt-bnIA-5@gated-at.bofh.it> <Kyv6V-bvWZ-17@gated-at.bofh.it> <Kyvqh-bw4z-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
Organization Ganneff

Show all headers | View raw

On 17556 March 1977, Ian Jackson wrote:

> We aren't waiting because ftpmaster haven't done the work agreed
> in 2024, that only they want.  That work is *not necessary*.

Because you do not think it neccessary by force implies that everyone 
has to think so?

You do not want it. The team that does the maintenance of the archive, 
does.

> We are waiting because the DPL won't authorise an "NMU", despite
>  - the team involved being well-known as dysfunctional for many years
>  - the team's explicit position being that they don't want tag2upload
>  - the team having failed to deliver on its promises
>  - a complete lack of communication from that team

The second point is a lie, and you know it. The last one is also not 
true.

An environment in which one has to work with you is the worst possible
environment. Yopur behaviour is nothing but harrassment, clean and
simple. "They don't do what I want, in my timeframe, they are broken,
they must be overruled" is the only thing you appear to know, always
directly coming around with GRs and overrule.

You and your behaviours effects are worse than those from many of the
people we had to expell in the past.

-- 
bye, Joerg

Back to linux.debian.vote | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread

Thread

Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-04 11:10 +0200
  Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2025-04-04 12:00 +0200
  Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-04 12:30 +0200
    Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 13:00 +0200
      Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-04 13:10 +0200
    Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation Philipp Kern <pkern@debian.org> - 2025-04-04 21:00 +0200
      Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-04 21:40 +0200
  Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-04 13:10 +0200
  Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2025-04-04 13:10 +0200
    Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation Julian Andres Klode <jak@debian.org> - 2025-04-04 23:40 +0200
  Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation [and 1 more messages] Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-04 14:00 +0200
    Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation  [and 1 more messages] Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2025-04-04 21:30 +0200
      Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation  [and 1 more messages] Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2025-04-05 03:20 +0200
        Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation  [and 1 more messages] Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2025-04-05 20:00 +0200
          Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation  [and 1 more messages] Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2025-04-06 01:50 +0200
      Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation  [and 1 more messages] Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-05 12:40 +0200
        Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation  [and 1 more messages] Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-05 13:30 +0200
        Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation  [and 1 more messages] Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2025-04-05 14:10 +0200
  Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2025-04-04 19:00 +0200
  Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for volunteers and GR draft:  tag2upload key installation) Daniel Gröber <dxld@darkboxed.org> - 2025-04-05 12:50 +0200
    Re: Why Debian is dying Richard Lewis <richard.lewis.debian@googlemail.com> - 2025-04-05 14:00 +0200
    Re: Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for volunteers and GR draft:  tag2upload key installation) Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-05 21:50 +0200
      Re: Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for volunteers and GR draft:  tag2upload key installation) Brian May <bam@debian.org> - 2025-04-06 00:00 +0200
        Re: Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for volunteers and GR draft:  tag2upload key installation) Matthias Urlichs <matthias@urlichs.de> - 2025-04-06 09:40 +0200
        Re: Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for volunteers and GR draft:  tag2upload key installation) Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-06 12:10 +0200
        Re: Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for volunteers and GR draft:  tag2upload key installation) Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-06 12:30 +0200
          Re: Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for volunteers and GR draft:  tag2upload key installation) Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org> - 2025-04-06 13:30 +0200
            Re: Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for volunteers and GR draft:  tag2upload key installation) Matthias Urlichs <matthias@urlichs.de> - 2025-04-06 14:40 +0200
              Re: Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for volunteers and GR draft:  tag2upload key installation) Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2025-04-08 15:20 +0200
                Re: Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for volunteers and GR draft:  tag2upload key installation) Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-08 17:50 +0200
                Re: Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for volunteers and GR draft:  tag2upload key installation) Steve McIntyre <93sam@debian.org> - 2025-04-10 02:50 +0200
                Re: Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for volunteers and GR draft:  tag2upload key installation) Matthias Urlichs <matthias@urlichs.de> - 2025-04-08 19:30 +0200
                Re: Why Debian is dying Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2025-04-09 03:50 +0200
                Re: Why Debian is dying Matthias Urlichs <matthias@urlichs.de> - 2025-04-09 14:00 +0200
                Re: Why Debian is dying Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-09 16:20 +0200
                Proactiveness of DPLing (was Re: Why Debian is dying) Matthias Urlichs <matthias@urlichs.de> - 2025-04-09 17:00 +0200
                a Constitutional interpretation question (was: Why Debian is dying) "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com> - 2025-04-09 20:20 +0200
                Re: Why Debian is dying Bill Allombert <ballombe@debian.org> - 2025-04-11 00:40 +0200
                Re: Why Debian is dying Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-11 13:00 +0200
            Re: Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for volunteers and GR draft:  tag2upload key installation) Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-06 15:00 +0200
            on continuing to wait Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2025-04-07 06:20 +0200
              Re: on continuing to wait Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org> - 2025-04-07 17:20 +0200
                Re: on continuing to wait Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-07 18:10 +0200
                Re: on continuing to wait Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org> - 2025-04-07 22:40 +0200
                Re: on continuing to wait Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2025-04-08 04:20 +0200
            Re: Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for volunteers and GR draft:  tag2upload key installation) Bill Allombert <ballombe@debian.org> - 2025-04-07 10:10 +0200
              Re: Why Debian is dying Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2025-04-09 11:10 +0200
                Re: Why Debian is dying "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com> - 2025-04-09 12:00 +0200
                Re: Why Debian is dying Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2025-04-09 16:40 +0200
                Re: Why Debian is dying Matthias Urlichs <matthias@urlichs.de> - 2025-04-09 17:00 +0200
          Re: Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for volunteers and GR draft:  tag2upload key installation) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2025-04-08 16:50 +0200
    Re: Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for volunteers and GR draft:  tag2upload key installation) Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org> - 2025-04-06 13:10 +0200
      Re: Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for volunteers and GR draft:  tag2upload key installation) Matthias Urlichs <matthias@urlichs.de> - 2025-04-06 14:40 +0200
      Re: Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for volunteers and GR draft:  tag2upload key installation) Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-06 15:30 +0200
    Re: Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for volunteers and GR draft:  tag2upload key installation) Bill Allombert <ballombe@debian.org> - 2025-04-07 22:30 +0200
    Debian's position in the AI Era (Was: Re: Why Debian is dying (Was:  Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation) "M. Zhou" <lumin@debian.org> - 2025-04-09 05:50 +0200
  Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-07 12:50 +0200
    Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-07 16:40 +0200
    Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2025-04-08 04:30 +0200
    Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2025-04-26 05:30 +0200
      Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-26 11:30 +0200
        Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no> - 2025-05-04 22:30 +0200
          Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-05-05 14:30 +0200

csiph-web