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Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise)

Subject Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise)
Newsgroups comp.theory
References (2 earlier) <20220502233810.000023d2@reddwarf.jmc> <GaZbK.18094$h6X.16714@fx04.iad> <20220502234711.00000216@reddwarf.jmc> <QCZbK.24$6iMa.15@fx39.iad> <20220503003041.00001407@reddwarf.jmc>
From Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org>
Message-ID <KR_bK.249$bTp1.124@fx44.iad> (permalink)
Organization Forte - www.forteinc.com
Date 2022-05-02 20:40 -0400

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On 5/2/22 7:30 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> On Mon, 2 May 2022 19:16:03 -0400
> Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 5/2/22 6:47 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2 May 2022 18:46:00 -0400
>>> Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> wrote:
>>>    
>>>> On 5/2/22 6:38 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 2 May 2022 18:32:16 -0400
>>>>> Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> wrote:
>>>>>       
>>>>>> On 5/2/22 11:47 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>>>>>> Not all infinitely recursive definitions are invalid however
>>>>>>> infinitely recursive definitions that arise out of a category
>>>>>>> error (as is the case with the halting problem) are invalid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The halting problem (as currently defined) is invalid due to the
>>>>>>> invalid "impossible program" [Strachey, 1965] that is actually
>>>>>>> impossible due to the category error present in its definition
>>>>>>> and *not* because of any function call-like recursion; confusion
>>>>>>> between these two types of recursion are why Olcott is having
>>>>>>> difficulty communicating his ideas with the rest of you shower.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The categories involved in the category error are the decider
>>>>>>> and that which is being decided.  Currently extant attempts to
>>>>>>> conflate the decider with that which is being decided are
>>>>>>> infinitely recursive and thus invalid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /Flibble
>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Except that the "impossible program" isn't part of the definition
>>>>>> of the Halting Problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is according to [Wikipedia, 2022].
>>>>>
>>>>> /Flibble
>>>>>       
>>>>
>>>> Nope, you comprehend worse that PO.
>>>>
>>>> Note, and Encyclopedic entery, like Wikipedia, is NOT just a
>>>> definition but a full article explaining the subject.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe if you look for a FORMAL source, that states what is the
>>>> ACTUAL definition, you would learn something.
>>>
>>> If Wikipedia is wrong then correct it and have your corrections
>>> reviewed; until then please shut the fuck up.
>>>
>>> /Flibble
>>>    
>>
>> It isn't that the article is "Wrong", it is a fairly good Encyclpedic
>> article. It just is that the first two paragraphs aren't all a
>> definition, and it doesn't say they are.
> 
> The first two paragraphs define the halting problem as that is what the
> currently extant halting problem "proofs" are predicated on (and why
> they are invalid).
> 
> /Flibble
> 

No, lets actually look at what is says, and parse it:

In computability theory, the halting problem is the problem of 
determining, from a description of an arbitrary computer program and an 
input, whether the program will finish running, or continue to run 
forever. Alan Turing proved in 1936 that a general algorithm to solve 
the halting problem for all possible program-input pairs cannot exist.

For any program f that might determine if programs halt, a 
"pathological" program g, called with some input, can pass its own 
source and its input to f and then specifically do the opposite of what 
f predicts g will do. No f can exist that handles this case. A key part 
of the proof is a mathematical definition of a computer and program, 
which is known as a Turing machine; the halting problem is undecidable 
over Turing machines. It is one of the first cases of decision problems 
proven to be unsolvable. This proof is significant to practical 
computing efforts, defining a class of applications which no programming 
invention can possibly perform perfectly.

Jack Copeland attributes the introduction of the term halting problem to 
the work of Martin Davis in the 1950s.[1]



The FIRST SENTENCE is the definition of the Problem.

The Second Sentence is the Theorem about it that says that no solution 
exists.

That ends the first paragraph.

The Second Paragraph, is a continuation of the idea of the Second 
Sentence, giving a summary of the proof that no solution exist.

It is a category error to confuse the Statement of the Problem with the 
Proof of the Theorem that not answer to the Problem exists.

A Proof is NOT a Problem.

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On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2022-05-02 16:47 +0100
  Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-02 11:18 -0500
    Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-02 17:39 +0100
      Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-02 15:28 -0500
        Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-03 00:10 +0100
          Re: H(P,P) == false is correct olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 21:07 -0500
            Re: H(P,P) == false is correct Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-04 15:16 +0100
              Re: H(P,P) == false is correct olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 14:27 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-05 01:59 +0100
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 20:19 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-05 03:28 +0100
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 21:55 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 19:59 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 22:09 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2022-05-04 21:17 -0600
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 22:35 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2022-05-04 21:38 -0600
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 22:42 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 20:50 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 22:58 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 21:07 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 23:48 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-05 07:51 -0400
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-05 07:50 -0400
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 04:57 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 13:01 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 11:03 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 13:45 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 11:50 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 16:43 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 20:20 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 22:38 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 20:43 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 22:54 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 21:12 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 23:49 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 04:54 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 11:12 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 09:20 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 13:32 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-05 07:56 -0400
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-05 07:54 -0400
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 05:27 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-05 14:14 +0100
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 16:53 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 15:11 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 17:31 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-05 22:43 -0400
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 12:17 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 10:28 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 13:39 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 11:52 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 16:47 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 15:06 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 17:28 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 15:42 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 20:06 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 18:17 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 20:36 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 18:59 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 21:08 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 19:18 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 21:33 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 19:50 -0700
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 01:35 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-06 07:52 -0400
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2022-05-05 20:51 -0600
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 14:07 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2022-05-06 13:14 -0600
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 14:29 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-05 07:46 -0400
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-05 14:29 +0100
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 17:12 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-05-06 02:58 +0200
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 20:01 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-05-06 03:34 +0200
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-06 03:35 +0100
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 21:57 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 22:29 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-06 12:36 +0100
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 11:33 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-07 02:57 +0100
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 21:22 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-08 00:01 +0100
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-07 18:45 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-08 00:59 +0100
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-07 12:31 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 23:48 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2022-05-05 23:01 -0600
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 00:12 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2022-05-06 07:36 -0600
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 10:32 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2022-05-06 09:43 -0600
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 11:45 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2022-05-06 11:01 -0600
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 13:03 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2022-05-06 12:18 -0600
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 13:50 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2022-05-06 13:05 -0600
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 14:19 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2022-05-06 13:23 -0600
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 14:34 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2022-05-06 13:37 -0600
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 14:48 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-07 00:47 +0100
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 18:59 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-07 03:04 +0100
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 21:26 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 23:03 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ Simple TM Interpreter ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 00:55 -0500
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-05 22:51 -0400
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-06 12:42 +0300
                Re: H(P,P) == false is correct [ verified facts ] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 14:09 -0500
    Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-03 12:36 +0300
      Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 04:08 -0700
        Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 09:33 -0500
          Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 09:41 -0700
            Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 11:57 -0500
              Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2022-05-03 12:53 -0600
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2022-05-03 13:02 -0600
              Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2022-05-03 19:59 +0100
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 14:05 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 14:51 -0700
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2022-05-03 16:06 -0600
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 17:15 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 17:11 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-04 12:04 +0100
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2022-05-04 14:04 +0100
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-04 14:48 +0100
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-05-04 00:21 +0200
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 17:40 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-05-04 00:46 +0200
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 17:49 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-05-04 01:05 +0200
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 18:48 -0500
          Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-04 12:15 +0100
            Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 11:24 -0500
              Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-04 18:51 -0400
      Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 09:38 -0500
        Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-03 20:17 +0300
          Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 13:06 -0500
            Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-04 10:19 +0300
              Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 12:57 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-04 18:53 -0400
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-05 12:37 +0300
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 12:52 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-06 12:23 +0300
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-06 14:14 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-07 11:42 +0300
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-07 11:16 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-08 11:21 +0300
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-09 10:41 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-09 19:45 +0300
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-09 12:11 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-09 19:21 -0400
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-10 10:34 +0300
          Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 13:13 -0500
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  Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-02 18:32 -0400
    Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2022-05-02 23:38 +0100
      Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-02 18:46 -0400
        Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2022-05-02 23:47 +0100
          Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-02 19:16 -0400
            Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2022-05-03 00:30 +0100
              Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-02 20:40 -0400
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2022-05-03 20:06 +0100
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 14:17 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-05-04 00:23 +0200
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-04 12:24 +0100
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-03 21:54 -0400
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2022-05-04 17:40 +0100
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 12:46 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-04 19:23 -0400
          Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-02 19:35 -0500
            Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-02 20:48 -0400
              Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) wij wij <wyniijj2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 05:12 -0700
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 09:31 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 07:47 -0700
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 10:19 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 08:36 -0700
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 11:39 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 14:49 -0700
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 17:08 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Dennis Bush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 15:21 -0700
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 17:32 -0500
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-03 21:47 -0400
  Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-03 12:31 +0300
    Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 09:42 -0500
      Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-03 20:27 +0300
        Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-03 13:13 -0500
          Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-03 21:38 -0400
          Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-09 19:58 +0300
            Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-09 12:16 -0500
              Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-09 19:30 -0400
              Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) wij <wyniijj2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-10 08:40 -0700
      Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-03 21:41 -0400
    Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2022-05-03 19:26 +0100
      Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-04 10:31 +0300
        Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-04 13:09 -0500
          Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-08 11:09 +0300
            Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-09 10:39 -0500
              Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-09 19:48 +0300
                Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-09 12:12 -0500
  Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-05 12:19 +0300
    Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2022-05-05 17:54 +0100
      Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-05 22:56 -0400
      Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-06 11:50 +0300
    Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 12:46 -0500
      Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-05 21:00 +0100
        Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 17:16 -0500
          Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-06 02:21 +0100
            Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-05 20:37 -0500
              Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-06 03:46 +0100
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      Re: On recursion and infinite recursion (reprise) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-06 11:54 +0300

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