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Re: Availability of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" for OFFLINE use

From Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Availability of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" for OFFLINE use
Date 2024-09-21 14:10 +0200
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On 09/20/2024 10:57 AM, David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 20 Sep 2024 at 07:53:28 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
>> On 09/19/2024 10:04 AM, David Wright wrote:
>>> On Thu 19 Sep 2024 at 09:16:25 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
>>>> Is the AMD64 version of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide"
>>>> available as a single file.
>>>>
>>>> I need it available when the network is not.
>>>>
>>>> It would be convenient if a copy of the menus appearing when
>>>> installing from DVD1 were available.
>>>
>>> Have you tried googling:
>>>
>>>     debian stable installation guide pdf amd64
>>>
>>> which should lead you to:
>>>
>>>     https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/install.en.pdf
>>
>> No ;}
>> For two primary  reasons:
>> 1. due to vision/perception problems I avoid PDF in favor of HTML.
>>     SeaMonkey simplifies consistent font size across documents.
>> 2. My work style uses tabs to group (and save across restarts)
>>     related references conveniently.
>>
>> Secondarily, for those preferring PDF, in my use of SeaMonkey since
>> days of Squeeze I never noticed mention of its documentation being
>> available as PDF.
> 
> The PDF is ~650kB, but for ~17MB you can get all three formats
> (PDF/text/HTML) as one file (in the sense it seems you mean) in
> the Debian package installation-guide-amd64.

As you didn't give a URL, I went to
https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=%22Debian%22%20%22package%22%20%22installation-guide-amd64%22

That did not link to "all three formats (PDF/text/HTML) as one file" 
available to one who does not have Debian already installed.

1st hit  of "Details of package installation-guide-amd64 in bullseye"
prompted travel in right direction.

I've been using Debian since Squeeze. I have never been pointed to
[ /usr/share/doc ] nor [ /usr/share/doc-base ]. The latter contains the 
"Installation Guide" as uncompressed HTML filed. PDF&text versions are 
there in compressed format.

> 
> Using tabs isn't affected by whether the HTML code itself is in
> a "single" file or a tree.

My mention of tabs was to point out why PDF was not useful.

> 
>> Because I'm doing a "from scratch" install for the first time in
>> several years, I said:
>>> It would be convenient if a copy of the menus appearing when installing
>>> from DVD1 were available.
> 
> Sorry, I would have thought you could recite them from memory by now :)

Tell me that with a straight face when you pass 80 ;)!
[I haven't seen that set of screens in at least 5 years.]

> 
>> I recall most of what has to be accomplished but am hazy on some
>> details. So I went looking at https://www.debian.org/ from a "newbie"
>> point of view. ~Nada:{
>> Drilling down leads to https://www.debian.org/do_c/ which first points
> 
> FTR remove the "_".
> 
>> our possibly non-geek newbie to "Installation Guide" and "Debian
>> GNU/Linux FAQ" which, though brimming with facts, are inconveniently
>> organized.
> 
> Oh dear, I thought that was how the Installation Guide had been
> organised since the days of yore.

YES! It has bugged me forever ;{

> 
>> *HOWEVER* there is something _NEW_ on the page!
>> Who, me, excited ;}
>> There is now something called _The Debian Bookworm beginner’s
>> handbook_ [
>> https://debian-beginners-handbook.tuxfamily.org/index-en.html ].
>> For reasons stated above I'll be using the HTML more than the PDF.
>>
>> This resource should be linked to on https://www.debian.org/ or at
>> most down only one level.
> 
> I don't think it makes sense to promote this above the two you've
> already mentioned.

It should at least be in the same "Quick Start" paragraph.

> 
>> I addresses some of my questions, though it only mentions others.
>> I'll be doing a lot of reading this weekend.
> 
> If you like it. I prefer the detail of the other two, and it now
> sounds as if you might.

They suffer from too much detail.

> 
>> One question. There are two HTML versions. What's difference between
>> the_beginners_handbook.html and the_beginners_handbook_night.html ?
> 
> It should be as clear as night and day from the very start of each,
> but:
> 
>    $ diff -U0 the*/the* > diff (attached)

*ROFL*
Due to my vision problems, one of the first things done to SeaMonkey was 
choosing "Use my chosen colors, ignoring the colors and background image 
specified" option of Preferences->Appearance->Colors :}!

> 
> Cheers,
> David.
>

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Availability of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" for OFFLINE use Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> - 2024-09-19 16:20 +0200
  Re: Availability of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" for  OFFLINE use David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-09-19 17:10 +0200
    Re: Availability of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" for OFFLINE  use Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> - 2024-09-20 15:00 +0200
      Re: Availability of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" for  OFFLINE use David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-09-20 18:00 +0200
        Re: Availability of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" for OFFLINE  use Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> - 2024-09-21 14:10 +0200
  Re: Availability of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" for OFFLINE  use Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> - 2024-09-22 13:20 +0200
    Re: Availability of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" for  OFFLINE use David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-09-23 03:10 +0200
      Finding/creating Debian documentation for an unserved audience Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> - 2024-09-23 13:40 +0200
        Re: Finding/creating Debian documentation for an unserved audience Michel Verdier <mv524@free.fr> - 2024-09-24 10:50 +0200
          Re: Finding/creating Debian documentation for an unserved audience Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> - 2024-09-24 11:50 +0200
            Re: Finding/creating Debian documentation for an unserved audience Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2024-09-24 14:00 +0200
            Re: Finding/creating Debian documentation for an unserved audience George at Clug <Clug@goproject.info> - 2024-09-25 00:00 +0200
              boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE (was: Re:  Finding/creating Debian documentation for an unserved audience) Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 04:40 +0200
                boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE  George at Clug <Clug@goproject.info> - 2024-09-25 23:30 +0200
                Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-09-26 04:50 +0200
                Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2024-09-26 11:00 +0200
                Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-09-27 04:50 +0200
                Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE George at Clug <Clug@goproject.info> - 2024-09-27 14:00 +0200
                Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-09-28 05:10 +0200
                Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2024-09-27 14:50 +0200
                Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE George at Clug <Clug@goproject.info> - 2024-09-28 17:10 +0200
                Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE Florent Rougon <f.rougon@free.fr> - 2024-09-29 15:00 +0200
                Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 04:30 +0200
        Re: Finding/creating Debian documentation for an unserved audience David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-09-27 04:50 +0200
          Re: Finding/creating Debian documentation for an unserved audience Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> - 2024-09-27 14:10 +0200
          Re: Finding/creating Debian documentation for an unserved audience Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2024-09-27 15:10 +0200

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