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Re: domain status in registry and registrar

From Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: domain status in registry and registrar
Date 2024-08-19 21:30 +0200
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Hi,

On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 12:46:43PM -0400, Michael Grant wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 04:35:34PM +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
> > TL;DR: I too find it a little odd that whois says this domain is reserved but
> > querying the DNS shows that it isn't there at all as I would
> > usually expect just the NS records to be present in the containing
> > zone. I can only assume that this registrar allows for registered
> > zones to not be published at all if one wishes. The whois is
> > authoritative for what is available to register; the DNS is
> > authoritative for what you can globally query.
> 
> There is no obligation to provide a working name server or serve DNS for a
> domain name.  DNS and name registration are separate.

That's not what I'm talking about. When you register a domain you
have to provide nameservers for it, and while it is true that you do
not need to actually run nameserver software on those nameservers¹,
the parent zone does need to add a delegation before anything will
work.

I find it odd that the parent zone (.net) has no delegation for this
domain, but perhaps that is a registrar option that I have not
noticed before. It has already been pointed out that if the
intention is to use the domain internally then technically no
delegation needs to be made. Though again I find it odd that the
registrar bothers to say what the nameservers are in that case.

Thanks,
Andy

¹ Though there are some zone operators that actually check to see if
  your proposed nameservers answer correctly for the domain you're
  adding before they will add the delegation.

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    Re: domain status in registry and registrar Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2024-08-19 11:00 +0200
    Re: domain status in registry and registrar Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-08-19 15:00 +0200
      Re: domain status in registry and registrar <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-08-19 15:10 +0200
        Re: domain status in registry and registrar Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-08-19 15:40 +0200
          Re: domain status in registry and registrar Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2024-08-19 16:10 +0200
            Re: domain status in registry and registrar Michael Kjörling <c9bc136c6063@ewoof.net> - 2024-08-19 16:30 +0200
  Re: domain status in registry and registrar Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2024-08-19 18:40 +0200
    Re: domain status in registry and registrar Michael Grant <mgrant@grant.org> - 2024-08-19 18:50 +0200
      Re: domain status in registry and registrar Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2024-08-19 21:30 +0200
    Re: domain status in registry and registrar Wesley <wesley@mxcloud.eu.org> - 2024-08-20 01:10 +0200
      Re: domain status in registry and registrar Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2024-08-20 01:20 +0200

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