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Bug#1090811: debian-installer: install linux-sysctl-defaults by default

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Hi Noah,

Noah Meyerhans <noahm@debian.org> (2024-12-19):
> Source: debian-installer
> Version: 20240914
> Severity: normal
> 
> The linux-sysctl-defaults provides a "sysctl configuration file setting some
> sensible defaults for Linux".  Among other things, the settings provided by
> this package are needed in order to allow unprivileged users to run the
> ping(8) command, now that ping is no longer installed with CAP_NET_RAW.
> 
> As linux-sysctl-defaults is not strictly required by iputils-ping or any
> other components of the base install, it is only listed as a Recommends, and
> as such it does not appear to be installed by default.  Thus I believe that
> it should be added to the list of packages explicitly installed by default
> during installation.
> 
> In theory, if we don't want to explicitly install the package in d-i,
> another possibility might be to bump it to Priority: standard and let
> tasksel install it.  I'm not sure what the tradeoffs might be that would
> drive the decision one way or another.

In either case, I'd recommend discussing it on e.g. debian-devel@,
hopefully getting a consensus, and coming back to us with the results.

I don't think the installer team should make that kind of decisions (in
general), but if someone else is happy to take responsibility for this
particular request, that's of course fine with me.

Regarding tasksel vs. Priority, the latter has a potential for a much
wider impact: lots of Debian system are installed without d-i and/or
tasksel, and most if not all would get the package via Priority. (Think
of all the tools building Debian images, chroots, containers, etc., on
top of debootstrap/mmdebstrap/etc.)


Cheers,
-- 
Cyril Brulebois (kibi@debian.org)            <https://debamax.com/>
D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant

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Bug#1090811: debian-installer: install linux-sysctl-defaults by default Noah Meyerhans <noahm@debian.org> - 2024-12-19 16:20 +0100
  Bug#1090811: debian-installer: install linux-sysctl-defaults by default Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2024-12-19 16:30 +0100
    Bug#1090811: debian-installer: install linux-sysctl-defaults by default Noah Meyerhans <noahm@debian.org> - 2024-12-19 18:20 +0100
      Bug#1090811: debian-installer: install linux-sysctl-defaults by default Chris Hofstaedtler <zeha@debian.org> - 2024-12-19 22:00 +0100
        Bug#1090811: debian-installer: install linux-sysctl-defaults by default Noah Meyerhans <noahm@debian.org> - 2024-12-19 22:40 +0100
          Bug#1090811: debian-installer: install linux-sysctl-defaults by default Chris Hofstaedtler <zeha@debian.org> - 2024-12-19 23:10 +0100
      Bug#1090811: debian-installer: install linux-sysctl-defaults by default Tianon Gravi <tianon@debian.org> - 2024-12-20 01:00 +0100
        Bug#1090811: please set linux-sysctl-defaults to Priority: important Noah Meyerhans <noahm@debian.org> - 2024-12-22 16:10 +0100
          Bug#1090811: please set linux-sysctl-defaults to Priority: important Chris Hofstaedtler <zeha@debian.org> - 2024-12-22 16:40 +0100
            Bug#1090811: please set linux-sysctl-defaults to Priority: important Noah Meyerhans <noahm@debian.org> - 2024-12-22 16:50 +0100
          Bug#1090811: please set linux-sysctl-defaults to Priority: important Salvatore Bonaccorso <carnil@debian.org> - 2025-01-01 07:20 +0100
            Bug#1090811: please set linux-sysctl-defaults to Priority: important Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2025-01-01 13:10 +0100
              Bug#1090811: please set linux-sysctl-defaults to Priority: important Salvatore Bonaccorso <carnil@debian.org> - 2025-01-01 14:10 +0100
      Bug#1090811: debian-installer: install linux-sysctl-defaults by default Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2024-12-20 02:20 +0100

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