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Re: Writing passwords down

From Peter Hillier-Brook <phb@hbsys.plus.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Writing passwords down
Date 2024-12-17 20:20 +0100
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On 17/12/2024 17:44, Michael Kjörling wrote:
> On 17 Dec 2024 06:45 +0100, from tomas@tuxteam.de:
>>> Then follow Bruce Schneier's advice and*write them down*.
>>
>> Do you have a reference?
>>
>> I ask because I'm in the middle of a discussion (and that was my advice,
>> too). Seeing what Schneier has to say on that would be very interesting.
> 
> Not Schneier, but consider also the UK National Cyber Security
> Centre's position on password managers:
> https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/blog-post/what-does-ncsc-think-password-managers
> 
> Under the heading "Should I use a password manager?" the opening is:
> "Yes. Password managers are a good thing. They give you huge
> advantages in a world where there's far too many passwords for anyone
> to remember."
> 

I couldn't cope without PasswordSafe (thanks Mr. Schneier) and the 
nonsense  about about not changing them ignores the obvious. My bank 
performs security checks by requesting a sub-set of my password. It 
doesn't take a genius to work out that after several visits the complete 
password can be deduced.

Peter HB

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a passwordless operating system 🦓 <czyborra@gmail.com> - 2024-12-15 09:00 +0100
  Re: a passwordless operating system debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2024-12-15 14:50 +0100
    Re: a passwordless operating system 🦓 <czyborra@gmail.com> - 2024-12-15 15:30 +0100
    Re: a passwordless operating system songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2024-12-17 05:00 +0100
      Re: a passwordless operating system John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2024-12-17 05:30 +0100
        Writing passwords down [was: a passwordless operating system] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-12-17 06:50 +0100
          Re: Writing passwords down [was: a passwordless operating system] "Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de> - 2024-12-17 08:30 +0100
            Re: Writing passwords down [was: a passwordless operating system] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-12-17 08:50 +0100
            Re: Writing passwords down [was: a passwordless operating system] Mike Castle <dalgoda+debian@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 18:00 +0100
          Re: Writing passwords down [was: a passwordless operating system] Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 15:30 +0100
          Re: Writing passwords down [was: a passwordless operating system] Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 15:40 +0100
            Re: libreoffice/openoffice system theme <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-12-17 16:00 +0100
          Re: Writing passwords down [was: a passwordless operating system] Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2024-12-17 17:10 +0100
            Re: Writing passwords down [was: a passwordless operating system] Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 18:30 +0100
              Re: Writing passwords down [was: a passwordless operating system] "James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com> - 2024-12-17 18:40 +0100
            Re: Writing passwords down [was: a passwordless operating system] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-12-17 18:30 +0100
              Re: Writing passwords down [was: a passwordless operating system] Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 18:40 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down [was: a passwordless operating system] tomas@tuxteam.de - 2024-12-17 19:30 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down [was: a passwordless operating system] Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 21:10 +0100
          Re: Writing passwords down Michael Kjörling <c9bc136c6063@ewoof.net> - 2024-12-17 18:50 +0100
            Re: Writing passwords down Peter Hillier-Brook <phb@hbsys.plus.com> - 2024-12-17 20:20 +0100
              Re: Writing passwords down John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2024-12-17 20:50 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> - 2024-12-18 06:00 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down Michael Kjörling <c9bc136c6063@ewoof.net> - 2024-12-18 11:00 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2024-12-18 18:20 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2024-12-18 19:00 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down "James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com> - 2024-12-18 19:10 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2024-12-18 20:10 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down pocket@homemail.com - 2024-12-18 21:20 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down Michael Kjörling <c9bc136c6063@ewoof.net> - 2024-12-18 19:30 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2024-12-18 20:30 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-12-19 06:00 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2024-12-18 20:30 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2024-12-18 23:10 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> - 2024-12-19 02:20 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> - 2024-12-19 02:20 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2024-12-19 02:30 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> - 2024-12-19 02:40 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2024-12-19 10:20 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2024-12-19 12:20 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 04:30 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down George at Clug <Clug@goproject.info> - 2024-12-20 05:40 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-12-20 05:40 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 06:10 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2024-12-20 10:50 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down George at Clug <Clug@goproject.info> - 2024-12-21 01:40 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 04:30 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2024-12-20 10:30 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down Michael Kjörling <c9bc136c6063@ewoof.net> - 2024-12-18 10:20 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-12-18 10:20 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down Michael Kjörling <c9bc136c6063@ewoof.net> - 2024-12-18 10:30 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2024-12-18 18:20 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-12-18 19:00 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 19:20 +0100
                Re: Writing passwords down Frank Jezzer <etphonehomefrance@gmail.com> - 2024-12-22 17:30 +0100
              Re: Writing passwords down Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 23:30 +0100
            Re: Writing passwords down John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2024-12-17 20:30 +0100
            Re: Writing passwords down debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2024-12-17 21:50 +0100
              Re: Writing passwords down Michael Kjörling <c9bc136c6063@ewoof.net> - 2024-12-18 10:30 +0100
      Re: a passwordless operating system debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2024-12-17 12:10 +0100
  Re: a passwordless operating system Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2024-12-15 15:40 +0100
    Re: a passwordless operating system 🦓 <czyborra@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 08:50 +0100
      Re: a passwordless operating system Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 08:50 +0100
        Re: a passwordless operating system Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2024-12-16 09:00 +0100
          Re: a passwordless operating system 🦓 <czyborra@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 09:10 +0100
        Re: a passwordless operating system 🦓 <czyborra@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 09:10 +0100
          Re: a passwordless operating system Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 09:10 +0100
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