Re: lintian.debian.org off ?

From	Nicolas Peugnet <nicolas@club1.fr>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.devel
Subject	Re: lintian.debian.org off ?
Date	2024-08-07 19:40 +0200
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Hi all,

Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> on Wed, 27 Sep 2023 14:19:20:
> Otto Kekäläinen <otto@debian.org> wrote on 27/09/2023 at 06:35:07+0200:
> 
>> Hi!
>>
>> Thanks for the context - so there is no need technical incompatibility
>> at play, but mostly a matter of having resources and time to do it.
>> ..
>>> Regarding the 301 redirection I'll see with the interested parties (DSA
>>> and Lintian maintainers) if this option is fine with everyone.
>>
>> I could easily write Ansible code to maintain a simple Nginx server,
>> with 302 redirects https://lintian.debian.org/tags/(.*)/?$ ->
>> https://udd.debian.org/lintian-tag.cgi?tag=$1, use same Ansible style
>> as salsa.debian.org is maintained on
>> (https://salsa.debian.org/salsa/salsa-ansible), and also donate a tiny
>> virtual machine for Debian project if needed. Is there some special
>> bureaucracy on top of that work to do to be able to contribute with
>> this?
> 
> Don't worry, the server still exists, it's just down, and reputting the
> DNS takes little to no time.
> 
> Regarding apache config, I'm fine with doing it. It's a matter of
> checking with everyone that we want to do that as the plan was nuking
> the server from orbit.
> 
> Providing debian.org infrastructure requires to be a member of the
> Debian System Administrators (DSA) team, which in turn requires to be a
> Debian Developer, so, sadly, you can't really help on that part.
> 
> That being said, thank you for offering your time.

I sent the following email in reply to Bug#1042428 but I didn't see it 
was archived, so I repost it here:

> As I just recently started making Debian packages, I clicked multiple times on links to <https://lintian.debian.org> that led me to a dead end, for instance from mentors.debian.org, or on the hyperlinks that lintian itself produce in the terminal output. It was not a very pleasant experience, especially for a newbie.
> 
> In my opinion, redirecting lintian.debian.org to the UDD links posted above is not a good option, because as I understand it, they only were intended to show the extended explanation for each tag. Having the list of all the affected packages in this page it not helpful, and it makes the pages very slow to load (and to produce).
> 
> So instead I thought that it would be quite easy to generate a static website that would be very fast to generate once, and then to serve and load. So I made my own implementation that generates a website that could be directly uploaded to lintian.debian.org, as it follows strictly the previous URL structure (I also added the manual of lintian as I also stumbled on links to it).
> 
> For now I hosted it on my server so you can see the result there:
> 
>   <https://static.club1.fr/nicolas/lintian/>
> 
> For instance the link above translates to:
> 
>   <https://static.club1.fr/nicolas/lintian/tags/superfluous-file-pattern.html>
> 
> And here are the sources:
> 
>   <https://github.com/n-peugnet/lintian-ssg>
> 
> It is not meant to replace the corresponding UDD link, in fact I added a link to it in the page of each tag, to see all the affected packages. But I think it is better to first arrive on a very fast to load page that simply explains the tag, and then be able to follow a link to see the list of affected packages.
> 
> Please telle me what you think about it and if you think it can be uploaded to lintian.debian.org? 

In the meantime I added some features and hosted it on its own domain to 
make the custom 404 page work correctly: <https://lintian.club1.fr/>. 
So, do you think it could be used to make the lintian.debian.org website 
back up?

P.S. I'm not subscribed to this list, so please CC me.

Regards
-- 
Nicolas Peugnet

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Re: lintian.debian.org off ? Nicolas Peugnet <nicolas@club1.fr> - 2024-08-07 19:40 +0200
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                Re: lintian.debian.org off ? Louis-Philippe Véronneau <pollo@debian.org> - 2024-09-20 18:00 +0200
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