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TARDY response -- [Re: Needed tool for vision-impaired - was [Re: PDF Editor for Debian]]

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On 06/24/2024 12:22 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Good afternoon.
> I am providing another option that might help here.
> robobraille,
> 
> www.robobraille.org
> Provides services, free of charge, that will convert pdf files  to a 
> number of different formats, including .html
> They provide audio, mobi, and  convert epub files too..but I digress.
> As a test, consider sending your file to
> convert at robobraille.org
>   correctly of course.
> in the subjectline put html
> leaving the body blank, and attach the file.
> See if the .html file returned meets your needs.
> Best,
> Karen
> 

I went to the site shortly after you posted.
*MY* browser (SeaMonkey 2.49.4  {32 bit Linux}) choked on it.
I didn't get a chance to visit local library to try another browser.
Forgot I had a copy of Firefox 68.10.0esr on my machine.
It ran fine.

I converted 
"https://fns-prod.azureedge.us/sites/default/files/resource-files/TFP2021.pdf" 
to both text and HTML.
The text version seems perfect.
The HTML version has problem of missing titles to several tables near 
end of file. There are 15 tables one after another. All table *contents* 
came thru OK. Only the last one had its associated title.

I'll give www.robobraille.org a heads-up about it.
As I've a peculiar local configuration of SeaMonkey, could another SM 
user run a quick check so that I can report if their site has a problem 
with SeaMonkey?

TIA



> 
> 
> On Mon, 24 Jun 2024, Richard Owlett wrote:
> 
>> On 06/24/2024 12:35 AM, Richard wrote:
>>>  Hello,
>>>  this very much depends on what you are expecting it to do. In general,
>>>  PDFs
>>>  are only meant to be viewed - and printed - they where never meant for
>>>  anything else. ...
>>
>> Second sentence should read:
>>>  ... only meant to be viewed by those with *NORMAL* vision ...
>>
>> I'm attempting to read a USDA document.[1]
>> The printed version of this document is marginally readable.
>>
>> Tools such as "Atril Document Viewer" provide selected magnification.
>> For this particular document and monitor, 150% is comfortable. 
>> Requires re-positioning the viewpoint 500 to 600 times to read document.
>>
>> For _this_ document, Atril can select all the text on a page in a 
>> manner that can be pasted in a "reasonable" manner to a Pluma document.
>>
>> It will:
>>    a. ignore actual graphics.
>>    b. put title/headings/??? on a separate line.
>>    c. all text between full page-width title/headings/??? will be
>>      treated as a logical unit.
>> It will not:
>>    1. put a blank line between paragraphs.
>>    2. put a blank line above/below lines containing title/headings/???.
>>    3. identify superscripts in some manner.
>>
>> All this suggests that it should be able to extract text from a PDF 
>> and create a HTML document likely using only <p>, <br>, <sup>, and 
>> <li> in its <body>.
>>
>>
>> [1] 
>> https://fns-prod.azureedge.us/sites/default/files/resource-files/TFP2021.pdf 
>>
>>     _Thrifty Food Plan, 2021_
>>     Food and Nutrition Service
>>     August 2021
>>     FNS-916
>>
>>
> 
> 

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  Needed tool for vision-impaired - was [Re: PDF Editor for Debian] Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> - 2024-06-24 19:20 +0200
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