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Re: recent Trixie upgrade removed nfs client

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On 2024-04-30 10:58, Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Apr 2024 09:51:01 -0400
> Gary Dale <gary@extremeground.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Gary,
>
>> Not looking for a solution. Just reporting a spate of oddities I've
>> encountered lately.
> As Erwan says, this is 'normal'.  Especially ATM due to the t64
> transition.
>
> As you've found out, paying attention to removals is a Good Idea(tm).
> Sometimes those removals cannot be avoided.  Of course, removal of
> 'library' to be replaced with 'libraryt64' is absolutely fine.
>
> If the upgrade wants to remove (say) half of the base packages of KDE,
> waiting a few days would be prudent.   :-D
>
> You may also notice quite a few packages being reported as "local or
> obsolete".  This is expected as certain packages have had to be removed
> from testing to enable a smoother flow of the transition.  Many will
> return in due course.  I do know of one exception, however;  deborphan
> has bee removed from testing and, as things stand, it looks like it
> might be permanent -  I fully understand why, but I shall mourn its
> passing, as I find it to be quite handy for weeding out cruft.
>
Yes but: both gdb and nfs-client installed fine. Moreover, the 
nfs-client doesn't appear to be a dependency of any of the massive load 
of files updated lately.  The gdb package however is but for some reason 
apt didn't want to install it.

The point is that apt didn't handle the situation reasonably. If it 
wanted a package that was installable, should it not have installed it? 
And while nfs-client isn't a dependency of other installed packages, why 
should autoremove remove it? It's status of not being a dependency 
didn't change. There are lots of packages that aren't depended on by 
other packages that I have installed (e.g. every end-user application). 
Shouldn't autoremove only offer to remove packages that used to be a 
dependency but aren't currently (i.e. their status has changed)?

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recent Trixie upgrade removed nfs client Gary Dale <gary@extremeground.com> - 2024-04-30 16:30 +0200
  Re: recent Trixie upgrade removed nfs client Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> - 2024-04-30 16:50 +0200
  Re: recent Trixie upgrade removed nfs client songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2024-04-30 18:30 +0200
    time_t transitions in testing songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2024-05-03 07:30 +0200
      Re: time_t transitions in testing songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2024-05-03 08:10 +0200
      Re: time_t transitions in testing Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> - 2024-05-03 11:00 +0200
      Re: time_t transitions in testing songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2024-05-03 13:50 +0200
      Re: time_t transitions in testing Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2024-05-03 13:50 +0200
  Re: recent Trixie upgrade removed nfs client Gary Dale <gary@extremeground.com> - 2024-04-30 21:50 +0200

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