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Re: stty permanently undef "start"

From Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: stty permanently undef "start"
Date 2024-07-10 17:10 +0200
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On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 16:50:38 +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> Greg Wooledge (12024-07-10):
> > There are many legitimate or semi-legitimate situations where a .bashrc
> > file might be read by a shell that's not running inside a terminal.
> > 
> > One of them is if someone chooses to dot in ~/.profile from their
> > ~/.xsession file, or something analogous to it.  Or perhaps their
> > operating system does this automatically in certain kinds of login.
> > 
> > Another might be a scripted ssh session being run from cron, or some
> > other parent that's not in a terminal.  Analogously, the ancient
> > predecessors of ssh (rsh, rexec) had exactly the same issues.
> 
> What you describe is not legitimate, even semi-, these are hacks by
> people who cannot be bothered to organize their configuration properly.

hobbit:~$ echo 'echo I AM BASHRC' >> .bashrc
hobbit:~$ ssh localhost date
greg@localhost's password: 
I AM BASHRC
Wed Jul 10 11:01:00 EDT 2024
hobbit:~$ 

Debian is, by your definition, a hack made by people who cannot be
bothered to organize their configuration properly.

Good to know.

(I won't even bother explaining because you CLEARLY know better than I
do about all topics.  Enjoy your day.)

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stty permanently undef "start" Franco Martelli <martellif67@gmail.com> - 2024-07-10 16:00 +0200
  Re: stty permanently undef "start" Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-07-10 16:00 +0200
    Re: stty permanently undef "start" Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2024-07-10 16:10 +0200
      Re: stty permanently undef "start" Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2024-07-10 16:30 +0200
        Re: stty permanently undef "start" Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-07-10 16:50 +0200
          Re: stty permanently undef "start" Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2024-07-10 17:00 +0200
            Re: stty permanently undef "start" Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-07-10 17:10 +0200
              Re: stty permanently undef "start" Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2024-07-10 17:10 +0200
                Re: stty permanently undef "start" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-07-10 18:00 +0200
                Re: stty permanently undef "start" Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-07-10 19:40 +0200
            Re: stty permanently undef "start" songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2024-07-11 01:10 +0200
              Re: stty permanently undef "start" Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2024-07-11 10:20 +0200
          Re: stty permanently undef "start" Franco Martelli <martellif67@gmail.com> - 2024-07-10 17:40 +0200
      Re: stty permanently undef "start" David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-07-10 16:30 +0200
      Re: stty permanently undef "start" Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2024-07-27 00:20 +0200
    Re: stty permanently undef "start" Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-07-11 17:50 +0200
      Re: stty permanently undef "start" Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-07-11 18:00 +0200
        Re: stty permanently undef "start" Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-07-12 06:00 +0200
          Re: stty permanently undef "start" Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-07-19 13:50 +0200
  Re: stty permanently undef "start" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2024-07-10 16:50 +0200
  Re: stty permanently undef "start" songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2024-07-11 01:00 +0200
    Re: stty permanently undef "start" Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-07-11 01:00 +0200
      Re: stty permanently undef "start" eben@gmx.us - 2024-07-11 03:10 +0200
        Re: stty permanently undef "start" Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-07-11 03:20 +0200
          Re: stty permanently undef "start" eben@gmx.us - 2024-07-11 03:50 +0200
      Re: stty permanently undef "start" songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2024-07-11 07:00 +0200

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