Re: how2 format a flash drive

From	George at Clug <Clug@goproject.info>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: how2 format a flash drive
Date	2024-07-02 06:50 +0200
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Is telemetry evil?  Are guns evil?  Philosophical questions?

I find it objectionable when people gather "telemetry" about "me" and
not just the causes of the "blue screens of death".

I find it objectionable when people gather personal "telemetry" and
then on sell that information to others for whatever purposes, whether
it is to target me with ads, or political analysts like Cambridge
Analytica, or to alter my "Social Credit Score", or to be used to
cancel my Credit Cards, or for whatever other purpose.

While collecting information about individuals and selling their data
is common practice these days, I object. I cannot stop it, but I can
at least use systems that gather such data as minimally as possible.
Hopefully by using Linux for 99% of my computing experience, I am
giving Google and Windows less data.

Of course, by the mere fact of visiting a web site (for example, that
has Google Analytics installed), and by writing emails like this that
well be scanned, and then this data will be added to my profile by any
companies collecting data to gain some view of me, which they will
then sell to political groups, marketers, etc.

Scott McNally’s quip that ‘you have no privacy, get over it’ is
sadly true, but I don't think he meant that we have to resign
ourselves to this fast, we can but do what we can to reduce the data
collected, even while realising our efforts are mostly in vain. 

https://lockstep.com.au/library/quotes/

Privacy is an interesting topic.

What has privacy to do with a Debian User email list?  Well I am
hoping by using Debian less of my data ends up in large tech company
hands. At least let me dream that it does.

I encourage others to use Debian, if by doing so will let them sleep
better at night, even if it is in ignorance.

George.

On Tuesday, 02-07-2024 at 13:40 Stefan Monnier wrote:

> In the more general case, telemetry is not in itself
> considered 'evil'.

I consider it evil if it's opt-out rather than opt-in.

        Stefan

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how2 format a flash drive Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2024-06-25 16:00 +0200
  Re: how2 format a flash drive "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2024-06-25 16:30 +0200
    Re: how2 format a flash drive David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-06-25 16:50 +0200
      Re: how2 format a flash drive "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2024-06-25 18:30 +0200
        Re: how2 format a flash drive "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2024-06-25 18:50 +0200
      Re: how2 format a flash drive eben@gmx.us - 2024-06-25 19:20 +0200
        Re: how2 format a flash drive David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-06-26 01:00 +0200
    Re: how2 format a flash drive Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2024-06-25 21:40 +0200
  Re: how2 format a flash drive Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2024-06-25 17:50 +0200
    Re: how2 format a flash drive Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2024-06-25 18:50 +0200
      Re: how2 format a flash drive Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2024-06-26 01:30 +0200
    Re: how2 format a flash drive Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2024-06-25 21:50 +0200
      Re: how2 format a flash drive eben@gmx.us - 2024-06-25 22:20 +0200
      Re: how2 format a flash drive George at Clug <Clug@goproject.info> - 2024-06-26 01:30 +0200
        Re: how2 format a flash drive sd@swampdog.co.uk - 2024-06-27 15:30 +0200
        Re: how2 format a flash drive Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2024-06-29 18:50 +0200
          Re: how2 format a flash drive Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2024-06-29 19:40 +0200
            Re: how2 format a flash drive Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2024-07-01 04:40 +0200
              Re: how2 format a flash drive jeremy ardley <jeremy.ardley@gmail.com> - 2024-07-01 07:50 +0200
                Re: how2 format a flash drive Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2024-07-01 15:10 +0200
                Re: how2 format a flash drive <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-07-01 15:50 +0200
                Re: how2 format a flash drive jeremy ardley <jeremy.ardley@gmail.com> - 2024-07-01 21:30 +0200
                Re: how2 format a flash drive Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-07-02 05:50 +0200
                Re: how2 format a flash drive gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-07-02 06:10 +0200
                Re: how2 format a flash drive <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-07-02 06:40 +0200
                Re: how2 format a flash drive George at Clug <Clug@goproject.info> - 2024-07-02 06:50 +0200
                Re: how2 format a flash drive Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2024-07-02 10:20 +0200
                Telemetry, data hoarding [was: how2 format a flash drive] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-07-02 10:30 +0200
                Re: how2 format a flash drive jeremy ardley <jeremy.ardley@gmail.com> - 2024-07-02 11:20 +0200
                Re: how2 format a flash drive John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2024-07-02 17:20 +0200
                Re: how2 format a flash drive Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2024-07-02 10:30 +0200
                Re: how2 format a flash drive jeremy ardley <jeremy.ardley@gmail.com> - 2024-07-02 11:30 +0200
                Re: how2 format a flash drive Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2024-07-02 22:40 +0200
          Browser traffic interception/inspection (was: how2 format a flash drive) Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2024-06-29 22:50 +0200
            Re: Browser traffic interception/inspection Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-06-30 03:40 +0200
              Re: Browser traffic interception/inspection Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2024-06-30 08:00 +0200
                Re: Browser traffic interception/inspection Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-06-30 17:40 +0200
                Re: Browser traffic interception/inspection Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2024-07-01 09:00 +0200
                Re: Browser traffic interception/inspection Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-07-01 17:10 +0200
                Re: Browser traffic interception/inspection Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2024-07-07 23:50 +0200
                Re: Browser traffic interception/inspection Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-07-08 04:40 +0200
                Re: Browser traffic interception/inspection Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2024-07-08 16:30 +0200
            Re: Browser traffic interception/inspection (was: how2 format a flash drive) Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2024-07-01 03:40 +0200
              Re: Browser traffic interception/inspection (was: how2 format a flash drive) Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2024-07-01 03:50 +0200
                Re: Browser traffic interception/inspection (was: how2 format a flash drive) Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2024-07-01 07:50 +0200
          Re: how2 format a flash drive Keith Bainbridge <keithrbau@gmail.com> - 2024-06-30 08:20 +0200
          Re: how2 format a flash drive Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2024-07-01 08:00 +0200
  Re: how2 format a flash drive Marc SCHAEFER <schaefer@alphanet.ch> - 2024-07-06 17:50 +0200

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