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Bug#1071462: installing/upgrading libc6 does not work in sbuild when systemd is installed as ischroot declines

From	Aurelien Jarno <aurel32@debian.org>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.bugs.dist, linux.debian.maint.glibc
Subject	Bug#1071462: installing/upgrading libc6 does not work in sbuild when systemd is installed as ischroot declines
Date	2024-05-20 12:00 +0200
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On 2024-05-20 10:40, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> On Mon, 20 May 2024 at 10:37, Aurelien Jarno <aurel32@debian.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 2024-05-20 10:22, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> > > On Mon, 20 May 2024 at 10:20, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues
> > > <josch@debian.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Quoting Chris Hofstaedtler (2024-05-20 10:38:04)
> > > > > * Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues <josch@debian.org> [240520 07:35]:
> > > > > > [..] But maybe it [glibc's postinst] should be doing some
> > > > > > more involved checks about what PID 1 is? It could then make sure to only call
> > > > > > systemd telinit if systemd is pid 1. [..]
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, that would probably suck. Putting the knowledge when to call
> > > > > telinit, and a specific telinit, into a ton of different things
> > > > > makes all those things hard to get right, hard to update, the usual.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've checked the sysvinit and the systemd implementations now, and
> > > > > they are not that different. Both try to talk to their respective
> > > > > pid1 daemons first using their respective communication socket.
> > > > >
> > > > > But then, if that doesn't work, they diverge:
> > > > > - sysvinit's telinit just gives up
> > > > > - systemd's telinit, *as an explicit fallback*, sends signals.
> > > > >
> > > > > systemd's telinit (aka systemctl) helpfully exits if it detects
> > > > > being in a chroot, before doing any of that.
> > > > >
> > > > > IWSTM systemd's telinit could, if called as telinit, not do the
> > > > > fallback to stick with sysvinit's behaviour?
> > > > >
> > > > > As a bonus, sysvinit's telinit could also gain the chroot check, and glibc's
> > > > > postinst (and other places) can become simpler again.
> > > >
> > > > via irc, jochen also pointed out: telinit could be the component which checks
> > > > what PID 1 actually is and only do its thing after it confirmed that it is
> > > > indeed an init system like systemd that is providing PID 1?
> > >
> > > That's all legacy stuff and I really don't want to touch it anymore.
> > > Going from the other side, maybe libc6.postinst could use something
> > > more reliable than ischroot()? Is systemd-detect-virt able to figure
> > > out the situation a bit better?
> >
> > Nope.
> 
> What's the output? With SYSTEMD_LOG_LEVEL=debug exported

In sbuild using unshare chroot running in a VM:

| SYSTEMD_LOG_LEVEL=debug /usr/bin/systemd-detect-virt
| Failed to read $container of PID 1, ignoring: Permission denied
| Found cgroup2 on /sys/fs/cgroup/, full unified hierarchy
| Found container virtualization none.
| Virtualization QEMU found in DMI (/sys/class/dmi/id/sys_vendor)
| UML virtualization not found in /proc/cpuinfo. 
| Virtualization XEN not found, /proc/xen does not exist
| Virtualization found, CPUID=KVMKVMKVM
| Found VM virtualization kvm
| kvm

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Aurelien Jarno                          GPG: 4096R/1DDD8C9B
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Bug#1071462: installing/upgrading libc6 does not work in sbuild when systemd is installed as ischroot declines Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2024-05-19 18:50 +0200
  Bug#1071462: installing/upgrading libc6 does not work in sbuild when systemd is installed as ischroot declines Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2024-05-19 19:10 +0200
    Bug#1071462: installing/upgrading libc6 does not work in sbuild when systemd is installed as ischroot declines Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2024-05-19 23:20 +0200
      Bug#1071462: installing/upgrading libc6 does not work in sbuild when systemd is installed as ischroot declines Chris Hofstaedtler <zeha@debian.org> - 2024-05-20 01:10 +0200
        Bug#1071462: installing/upgrading libc6 does not work in sbuild when systemd is installed as ischroot declines Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2024-05-20 07:30 +0200
          Bug#1071462: installing/upgrading libc6 does not work in sbuild when systemd is installed as ischroot declines Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues <josch@debian.org> - 2024-05-20 07:40 +0200
            Bug#1071462: installing/upgrading libc6 does not work in sbuild when systemd is installed as ischroot declines Chris Hofstaedtler <zeha@debian.org> - 2024-05-20 10:50 +0200
              Bug#1071462: installing/upgrading libc6 does not work in sbuild when systemd is installed as ischroot declines Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues <josch@debian.org> - 2024-05-20 11:30 +0200
                Bug#1071462: installing/upgrading libc6 does not work in sbuild when systemd is installed as ischroot declines Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2024-05-20 11:30 +0200
                Bug#1071462: installing/upgrading libc6 does not work in sbuild when systemd is installed as ischroot declines Aurelien Jarno <aurel32@debian.org> - 2024-05-20 11:40 +0200
                Bug#1071462: installing/upgrading libc6 does not work in sbuild when systemd is installed as ischroot declines Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2024-05-20 11:50 +0200
                Bug#1071462: installing/upgrading libc6 does not work in sbuild when systemd is installed as ischroot declines Aurelien Jarno <aurel32@debian.org> - 2024-05-20 12:00 +0200
                Bug#1071462: installing/upgrading libc6 does not work in sbuild when systemd is installed as ischroot declines Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2024-05-20 12:10 +0200
                Bug#1071462: installing/upgrading libc6 does not work in sbuild when systemd is installed as ischroot declines Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues <josch@debian.org> - 2024-05-20 16:20 +0200
                Bug#1071462: installing/upgrading libc6 does not work in sbuild when systemd is installed as ischroot declines Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2024-05-20 16:20 +0200
              Bug#1071462: installing/upgrading libc6 does not work in sbuild when systemd is installed as ischroot declines Aurelien Jarno <aurel32@debian.org> - 2024-05-20 11:50 +0200
                Bug#1071462: installing/upgrading libc6 does not work in sbuild when systemd is installed as ischroot declines Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2024-05-20 16:00 +0200

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