Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

From	Richard <rrosner5@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs
Date	2024-05-14 15:20 +0200
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"Top posting" (writing the answer above the text that's being replied to)
is literally industry standard behavior.

Also, I don't think you've really cleared out any confusion. Now, how
exactly can dovecot log to /var/log/dovecot/ without (postfix) throwing
errors? Because it clearly is for 2 out of 3 files as visible from the file
sizes in my original post. Only the debug file is empty, but maybe nothing
relevant enough has been found yet. There are entries from master,
imap, imap-login, managesieve-login, anvil and various other processes in
info and error. But the error messages from postfix still appear, also
seemingly at least vastly slowing down emails being delivered to the users,
if not bringing that to a complete halt. Only after commenting out these
locations in 10-logging.conf the mails show up for the users.

Am Di., 14. Mai 2024 um 14:54 Uhr schrieb Henning Follmann <
hfollmann@itcfollmann.com>:

> On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 01:58:07PM +0200, Richard wrote:
> >
>
> Please don't top post! It is a pain to follow a thread if you do.
>
>
> > Am Di., 14. Mai 2024 um 13:45 Uhr schrieb Greg Wooledge <
> greg@wooledge.org>:
> >
> > > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 07:36:17PM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote:
> > > > Postfix is chrooted (usuallly) to /var/spool/postfix
> > >
> > > If this is true, then how would a local delivery agent work?  It needs
> > > write access to all users' inboxes, which are either in /var/mail or in
> > > users' home directories.
>
> Usually the local delivery is done by a local agent (procmail, dovecot's
> lmtp daemon). These do not run chrooted.
>
> > >
> > > I could imagine the Postfix SMTP sending/receiving and queue processing
> > > programs being chrooted, but the LDA probably isn't.  Or at least not
> > > chrooted to /var/spool/postfix.
> > >
> > >
> [fixed top posting]
> > For us the situation is even a bit stranger. The inboxes are located in
> > neither location, but in /maildirs/username/ (no idea why it was set up
> > that way, but it's a dedicated mail server where the user's don't have
> > their own home directory). /var/mail is empty.
>
> This is a common dovecot setup.
> lmtp provides a unix socket into postfix chroot environment. This process
> usually runs as postfix user so the socket is owned by postfix. But it uses
> the dovecot logging configuration.
> Having the maildirs in a dedicated directory makes it easy to have a
> dedicated drive just for the mailboxes. This makes adapting to growth much
> simpler.
>
> -H
>
>
> --
> Henning Follmann           | hfollmann@itcfollmann.com
>
>

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Dovecot correct ownership for logs Richard <rrosner5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-13 22:20 +0200
  Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs Geert Stappers <stappers@stappers.nl> - 2024-05-13 22:30 +0200
  Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-05-13 22:30 +0200
    Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs Richard <rrosner5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 13:20 +0200
  Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs jeremy ardley <jeremy.ardley@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 00:50 +0200
    Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs Richard <rrosner5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 13:20 +0200
      Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs jeremy ardley <jeremy.ardley@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 13:40 +0200
        Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-05-14 13:50 +0200
          Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs jeremy ardley <jeremy.ardley@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 14:00 +0200
            Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs Richard <rrosner5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 19:30 +0200
          Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs Richard <rrosner5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 14:00 +0200
            Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs Richard <rrosner5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 15:20 +0200
              Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs Richard <rrosner5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 15:30 +0200
              OT: Top Posting (was: Dovecot correct ownership for logs) "Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de> - 2024-05-14 16:00 +0200
                Re: OT: Top Posting (was: Dovecot correct ownership for logs) Richard <rrosner5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 16:10 +0200
                Re: OT: Top Posting gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-05-14 17:00 +0200
                Re: OT: Top Posting Richard <rrosner5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 17:10 +0200
                Re: OT: Top Posting Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 21:00 +0200
                Re: OT: Top Posting Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 00:30 +0200
                Re: OT: Top Posting fxkl47BF@protonmail.com - 2024-05-14 19:10 +0200
                Re: OT: Top Posting Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-05-14 19:50 +0200
                Re: OT: Top Posting "James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com> - 2024-05-14 20:00 +0200
                Re: OT: Top Posting Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2024-05-14 20:20 +0200
                Re: OT: Top Posting Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> - 2024-05-14 20:40 +0200
                Re: OT: Top Posting Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-05-14 21:40 +0200
                Markup in mail messages (was: Re: OT: Top Posting) Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 04:20 +0200
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                Re: Markup in mail messages Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2024-05-15 17:00 +0200
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                Re: Markup in mail messages <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-05-16 15:50 +0200
                Re: Markup in mail messages Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2024-05-16 16:00 +0200
                Re: Markup in mail messages Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-05-17 21:30 +0200
                Re: Markup in mail messages Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2024-05-17 23:20 +0200
                Re: Markup in mail messages Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 05:40 +0200
                Re: Markup in mail messages <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-05-18 07:50 +0200
                Re: Markup in mail messages Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-05-16 19:00 +0200
                Re: Markup in mail messages Karl Vogel <vogelke@pobox.com> - 2024-05-17 05:50 +0200
                Re: Markup in mail messages Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-05-17 07:50 +0200
                Re: Markup in mail messages Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-05-17 13:20 +0200
                Re: Markup in mail messages Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 15:30 +0200
                Re: Markup in mail messages Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-05-18 15:50 +0200
                Re: Markup in mail messages Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2024-05-16 17:10 +0200
                Re: OT: Top Posting debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2024-05-14 21:40 +0200
                Re: OT: Top Posting Cindy Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 16:40 +0200
                Re: OT: Top Posting Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2024-05-15 17:00 +0200
                Re: OT: Top Posting gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-05-15 20:10 +0200
                Re: OT: Top Posting "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2024-05-14 20:30 +0200
                Re: OT: Top Posting Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2024-05-14 23:20 +0200
                Re: OT: Top Posting fxkl47BF@protonmail.com - 2024-05-14 23:40 +0200
                Re: OT: Top Posting Cindy Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 15:50 +0200
                Re: OT: Top Posting Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2024-05-15 16:10 +0200
                Re: OT: Top Posting gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-05-15 16:50 +0200
                Re: OT: Top Posting Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-05-15 16:50 +0200
                Re: OT: Top Posting Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2024-05-15 18:10 +0200
                Re: OT: Top Posting "James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com> - 2024-05-15 18:50 +0200
                Re: OT: Top Posting (was: Dovecot correct ownership for logs) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-05-14 17:30 +0200
              Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2024-05-14 16:00 +0200
                Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs Richard <rrosner5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 20:50 +0200
              Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs Alain D D Williams <addw@phcomp.co.uk> - 2024-05-14 17:40 +0200
                Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2024-05-14 17:50 +0200
        Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-05-14 13:50 +0200
  Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-05-14 06:40 +0200
    Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs Richard <rrosner5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 13:40 +0200
      Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs tomas@tuxteam.de - 2024-05-14 13:50 +0200
        Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs Florent Rougon <f.rougon@free.fr> - 2024-05-14 14:10 +0200
        Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs tomas@tuxteam.de - 2024-05-14 14:20 +0200
          Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs jeremy ardley <jeremy.ardley@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 00:50 +0200
            Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs Richard <rrosner5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 12:30 +0200
              Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs jeremy ardley <jeremy.ardley@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 12:40 +0200
                Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs Richard <rrosner5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 13:00 +0200
                Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs jeremy ardley <jeremy.ardley@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 13:00 +0200
              Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2024-05-15 14:00 +0200
                Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs Richard <rrosner5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-16 13:10 +0200
                Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2024-05-16 14:40 +0200
                Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs Richard <rrosner5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-17 10:20 +0200
                Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-05-17 14:30 +0200
                Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2024-05-17 14:30 +0200
                Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs Richard <rrosner5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 15:20 +0200
        Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs Richard <rrosner5@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 14:20 +0200

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