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Bug#1060700: Requesting advice regarding the impact of problems caused by aliasing on declared Conflicts

From Matthew Vernon <matthewv@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Newsgroups linux.debian.bugs.dist
Subject Bug#1060700: Requesting advice regarding the impact of problems caused by aliasing on declared Conflicts
Date 2024-02-19 11:00 +0100
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On 17/01/2024 14:07, Helmut Grohne wrote:

> I somehow missed how Ben's libnfsidmap bug #1058937 works slightly
> simpler. Given that $second has a conflict with the installed version of
> $first, one can skip that second step and instead install $second
> directly with dpkg -i. So no, this weird selections stuff is not
> technically necessary.

To check I have understood correctly: one may see loss of files when 
doing dpkg -i of a package where it Conflicts: with an installed package?

If that's so, then I think it increases my unhappyness about this 
situation. I can understand "do upgrades with apt, that's the tooling 
for the job", and we had already talked about adding something to 
release notes to describe what manual actions that one might take during 
an upgrade were dangerous, but "dpkg -i foo.deb where foo.deb Conflicts 
with something you have installed" seems like the sort of thing one 
really might reasonably do during an upgrade that has got stuck for some 
reason or other.

Regards,

Matthew

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Bug#1060700: Requesting advice regarding the impact of problems caused by aliasing on declared Conflicts Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2024-01-13 08:30 +0100
  Bug#1058937: Bug#1060700: Requesting advice regarding the impact of problems caused by aliasing on declared Conflicts Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2024-01-17 15:20 +0100
    Bug#1060700: Requesting advice regarding the impact of problems caused by aliasing on declared Conflicts Matthew Vernon <matthewv@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2024-02-19 11:00 +0100
      Bug#1060700: Requesting advice regarding the impact of problems caused by aliasing on declared Conflicts Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2024-02-19 12:20 +0100
  Bug#1060700: Requesting advice regarding the impact of problems caused by aliasing on declared Conflicts Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2024-01-17 17:40 +0100
    Bug#1060700: Requesting advice regarding the impact of problems caused by aliasing on declared Conflicts Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2024-01-17 18:40 +0100
  Bug#1060700: Requesting advice regarding the impact of problems caused by aliasing on declared Conflicts Matthew Vernon <matthewv@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2024-02-19 11:00 +0100
    Bug#1060700: Requesting advice regarding the impact of problems caused by aliasing on declared Conflicts Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2024-02-19 12:20 +0100
    Bug#1060700: Requesting advice regarding the impact of problems caused by aliasing on declared Conflicts Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2024-02-20 16:30 +0100
      Bug#1060700: Requesting advice regarding the impact of problems caused by aliasing on declared Conflicts Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2024-02-20 17:20 +0100

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