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Re: report a Debian bug

From David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: report a Debian bug
Date 2023-11-02 22:20 +0100
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On 11/2/23 01:05, gene heskett wrote:
> On 11/2/23 01:46, David Christensen wrote:
>> On 11/1/23 18:34, gene heskett wrote:
>>
>>> So what i'm going to do next is transfer my /home, the whole MaryAnn 
>>> from a 4 drive raid10 to a single 2T SSD,, and then switch /home from 
>>> the raid to a single drive, thereby removing the raid10 from the 
>>> culprit list.


The df(1) output, below, indicates that /home is still on RAID10.


>>> If that doesn't fix it, then its something to do with the graficks.
>>> I have one real clue, some one the openscad list said the preview 
>>> mode opened a bunch of gfx buffers it used the preview mode that it 
>>> didn't do in final build mode, so I ran some tests on a fairly 
>>> complex project, noting that the openscad logging window said a 
>>> preview was done in a bit over a second but the final monocolored 
>>> version took over 9 seconds to render, giving me an image I could 
>>> move in 3d space in the preview window in real time.  But that 1.2 
>>> second preview render took 30 to 45 seconds to show in\on screen and 
>>> every update of that image took at least 45 seconds to register on 
>>> screen, and during that 45 seconds or more, openscad was frozen from 
>>> all other input. That is as close to a clue as I have, also 
>>> manifested when any kind of a file requester needs to be drawn on 
>>> screen it is subjectto to that same time killing lockup except it 
>>> might be as long as 5 minutes before the requestor is drawn on 
>>> screen.  That raid was built by buster, worded fine for bullseye, but 
>>> seems to be a disaster for bookworm, yet an fsck finds nothing wrong.
>>>
>>> Those are the clues I have. Nothing obvious and common to all this 
>>> contaminates the logs.
>>>
>>> I own the whole nearly 1.8T raid10, every byte of it.  Why can't I 
>>> use it? Instead its holding me for an undefined ransom in time that I 
>>> at 89 don't have a lot of left.
>>
>> I assume this is the computer with the Asus PRIME Z370-A II 
>> motherboard,   Intel i5-9600K processor, 32 GB RAM, WD Black 2 TB NVMe 
>> PCIe 3.0 x4 SSD, a few PCIe x1 SATA III HBA's with many ports, many 
>> SATA III SSD's and/or HDD's, and a few md RAID (?).
>
> Yup, I just added another 3.6Tb of sdd's that are still unformatted. 
> Gigastone's from Taiwan.


4 @ 1 TB or 2 @ 2 TB?  If and when you configure them, please note that 
in future posts.


>> Did you connect the /home RAID10 4 @ 1 TB SSD's to one PCIe x1 HBA?
>
> I assume its an X1 card, small footprint, cheap version with 10 bondouts 
> but only 6 have drive cable sockets installed. Only 4 for the raid10 are 
> actually used.  


One PCIe 3.0 lane is rated for 985 MB/s, which is less than the sum of 
the throughputs for 4 @ SATA III SSD's.  But, it should not cause the 
openscad issues.


> I have another card I haven't tried, is a full 16 ports 
> but is also the narrow pci-e footprint. Neither is sold as a raid card, 
> so its all mdadm.


I recall discussing that about two months ago.  Similar to the 6 port 
HBA, it will limit the aggregate throughput; but should not cause 
openscad issues.


> This worked perfectly for buster and bullseye, so it seems this problem 
> is bookworms problem.


If you have a Buster or Bullseye drives or system images, they could be 
useful for testing.


>> Are your file systems full?
> /home is currently about 20% used, everything else is much lower yet.
>>
>> # df /boot / /tmp /home
> The whole thing:
> gene@coyote:~$ df
> Filesystem      1K-blocks      Used  Available Use% Mounted on
> udev             16329748         0   16329748   0% /dev
> tmpfs             3272676      1880    3270796   1% /run
> /dev/sda1       863983352  15989096  804032608   2% /
> tmpfs            16363376      1232   16362144   1% /dev/shm
> tmpfs                5120         8       5112   1% /run/lock
> /dev/sda3        47749868       260   45291600   1% /tmp
> /dev/md0p1     1796382580 327360472 1377697132  20% /home
> tmpfs             3272672      3768    3268904   1% /run/user/1000


Okay -- no free space issues.


What drive corresponds to /dev/sda?  If not the WD Black 2 TB NVMe 
drive, then is the WD Black installed and configured?


>> Do your file systems need defragmenting?
>>
>> # e4defrag -c /boot / /home
> dnk, wasn't fam with how to do it, And worst case score for that cmd is 1.
> /home was the last check:
> 
> <Fragmented files>                             now/best       size/ext
> 1. 
> /home/gene/.mozilla/firefox/f8j7d2lj.default-esr/storage/default/https+++www.wsaz.com/ls/data.sqlite
>                                                   7/1              4 KB
> 2. 
> /home/gene/.mozilla/firefox/f8j7d2lj.default-esr/storage/default/https+++apps.sascdn.com/ls/data.sqlite
>                                                   7/1              4 KB
> 3. 
> /home/gene/.mozilla/firefox/f8j7d2lj.default-esr/storage/default/https+++www.euronews.com/ls/data.sqlite
>                                                   6/1              4 KB
> 4. 
> /home/gene/.mozilla/firefox/f8j7d2lj.default-esr/storage/default/https+++www.britannica.com/ls/data.sqlite
>                                                   6/1              4 KB
> 5. 
> /home/gene/.mozilla/firefox/f8j7d2lj.default-esr/storage/default/https+++travelermaster.com/ls/data.sqlite
>                                                   6/1              4 KB
> 
>   Total/best extents                             1245442/1166289
>   Average size per extent                        262 KB
>   Fragmentation score                            1
>   [0-30 no problem: 31-55 a little bit fragmented: 56- needs defrag]
>   This directory (/home) does not need defragmentation.
>   Done.


Okay -- no fragmentation issues.


> Thank you David.


YW.  :-)


The "PRIME Z370-A II Series" user's manual indicates various RAID and 
non-RAID storage configurations using PCIe slots, PCIe Hyper M.2 cards, 
M.2 sockets, M.2 drives, SATA  6.0 Gb/s ports, SATA drives, and Setup 
NVRAM settings.  The details are non-trivial -- perhaps your system is 
mis-configured (?):

https://www.asus.com/us/supportonly/prime%20z370-a%20ii/helpdesk_manual/


Please examine the following NVRAM settings:

BIOS Setup
   Advanced menu
     PCH Storage Configuration
       SATA Mode Selection			AHCI


If the WD Black is installed in socket M.2_1:

BIOS Setup
   Advanced menu
     Onboard Devices Configuration
       M.2_1 Configuration			PCIE mode


If the WD Black is installed in socket M.2_2 (ports SATA6G_5 and 
SATA6G_6 will be disabled in X4 mode):

BIOS Setup
   Advanced menu
     Onboard Devices Configuration
       M.2_2 PCIe Bandwidth Configuration	X4


To check the hardware and NVRAM configuration, tear down the system to 
just the motherboard and one SATA drive with Bookworm, reset Setup NVRAM 
to defaults, and test.  If the openscad issue is present, try Bullseye 
and/or Buster.  If the issue is absent, continue adding hardware, 
configuring NVRAM, and testing until either you find the problem or the 
system is complete.


David

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                Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was:  Domainnametouse on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-31 15:30 +0100
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                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-27 17:50 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 18:40 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-27 18:50 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-27 19:10 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-27 19:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-27 14:00 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 17:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-27 17:50 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 18:30 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 18:50 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-27 19:30 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-10-29 15:30 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-29 16:30 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-29 17:00 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-29 17:30 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-29 18:10 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-29 19:20 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-29 19:40 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 03:20 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 09:00 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Timothy M Butterworth <timothy.m.butterworth@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 10:20 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 17:10 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-30 17:20 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-30 17:50 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 18:30 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-30 18:40 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-30 17:50 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 18:10 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-30 18:30 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 18:40 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-30 18:30 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 18:40 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 17:50 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-30 18:40 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 19:40 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2023-10-30 19:40 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-30 19:50 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-30 22:10 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 22:40 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2023-10-31 02:40 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-31 15:10 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-31 04:10 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 19:50 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-31 04:00 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-30 13:20 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-30 13:30 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-30 13:30 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-30 13:40 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 17:40 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 17:20 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 16:00 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 17:40 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 16:40 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks "Marco M." <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-10-27 16:50 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 18:10 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks "Marco M." <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-10-27 21:30 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-27 16:50 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 18:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-27 18:30 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-27 19:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-27 20:00 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-27 20:10 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-27 21:00 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2023-10-27 21:10 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-10-28 00:50 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-28 07:40 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-10-27 16:40 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-26 10:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks "Marco M." <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-10-26 10:40 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-26 11:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-10-26 11:10 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-26 11:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-27 17:30 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks "Marco M." <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-10-26 10:30 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-10-25 22:10 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-10-26 01:30 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager jeremy ardley <jeremy.ardley@gmail.com> - 2023-10-26 02:00 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2023-10-26 02:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-10-27 05:30 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager ghe2001 <ghe2001@protonmail.com> - 2023-10-23 18:00 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-23 04:50 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-23 18:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-23 20:10 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2023-10-23 20:30 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-23 23:40 +0200
              Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2023-10-22 14:50 +0200
                Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-22 14:50 +0200
                Re: example.org and other RFC 2606 domains; was: Bookworm:  NetworkManager Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-22 15:20 +0200
                Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2023-10-22 17:00 +0200
              Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2023-10-22 18:20 +0200
                Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-22 19:50 +0200
      Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-21 20:40 +0200
        Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-21 20:50 +0200
  Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-21 22:30 +0200
    Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2023-10-21 22:40 +0200
    Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2023-10-22 17:30 +0200
      Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-10-22 17:30 +0200
        Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2023-10-22 17:50 +0200
          Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-25 19:00 +0200
        Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-22 19:40 +0200
      Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-22 19:20 +0200
        Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-22 19:50 +0200
        Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2023-10-23 00:40 +0200
          Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-23 01:20 +0200
            Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2023-10-23 19:10 +0200
          Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-10-23 22:30 +0200
            Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2023-10-27 21:40 +0200
  Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-22 02:30 +0200

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