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Re: EASY way to install packages from trixie/sid to stable?

From "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: EASY way to install packages from trixie/sid to stable?
Date 2023-10-26 18:40 +0200
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On 26.10.2023 18:39, Hans wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> is there a very easy way, if I want to install packages from trixie oder sid
> into my bookworm installation?
>
> I read about apt pinning, but as far as I understood, I have to name
> explicitily each package I want to install from sid. This can be much work,
> when installing a high number of packages.
>
> I suppose, I then have also to install all dependencies of the packaes from
> sid, even if they are related to the system.
>
> In my case I wanted to install virtualbox from sid, as it has all packages
> ready. However, virtualbox requires and depends also the newer gcc compiler
> and some compiler libs, thus I took distance from installing for now.
>
> At the moment I am not using pinning. My actual way of doing is
>
> 1. adding the sid repo into /etc/apt/sources.list
>
> 2. then aptitude -u
>
> 3. then searching for the required package and mark it as install (or
> upgradeble
>
> 4. Then install, if wanted.
>
> Yes, I know, pinning would be the better way, but it is very, very seldom, I
> need to install something from a higher repo.
>
> And yes, I know, mixing repos is no good idea, so I am using this only for
> applications, which are using theire own libraries (or libs, they are only for
> this special application).
>
> Do you know another way, except pinning or my (weired) way?
I've always did it "the right way", by making simple backports [1] of 
required package and its selected dependencies if newer versions are 
required.
For some exotic packages this approach is not feasible, because you 
might end up with dozens of packages to backport as dependencies and 
dependencies of their dependencies.
"php", "nodejs" and "golang" to name a few tend to snowball a lot.

In your situation, it could be better to use officially distributed 
package [2] from Oracle for now.
Foreign packages like these could be installed into separate location 
like into "/opt/". This way they won't interfere with the rest of your 
system.
I don't use virtualbox (KVM does everything and more for me) so I can't 
vouch for the quality of packages from Oracle.

[1] https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation
[2] https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads

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With kindest regards, Alexander.

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EASY way to install packages from trixie/sid to stable? Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2023-10-26 17:40 +0200
  Re: EASY way to install packages from trixie/sid to stable? "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2023-10-26 18:40 +0200
    Re: EASY way to install packages from trixie/sid to stable? Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-26 19:10 +0200
        Which Virtual Manager? Was: EASY way to install packages from trixie/sid to  stable? Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2023-10-26 19:30 +0200
        Re: Which Virtual Manager? Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-26 19:50 +0200
          Re: Which Virtual Manager? Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2023-10-26 20:10 +0200
        Re: Which Virtual Manager? Was: EASY way to install packages from  trixie/sid to stable? Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-10-26 21:20 +0200
          Re: Which Virtual Manager? Was: EASY way to install packages from  trixie/sid to stable? "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2023-10-26 21:30 +0200
            Re: Which Virtual Manager? Was: EASY way to install packages from  trixie/sid to stable? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2023-10-27 11:20 +0200
              Re: Which Virtual Manager? Was: EASY way to install packages from  trixie/sid to stable? "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2023-10-27 19:40 +0200
              Re: Which Virtual Manager? Was: EASY way to install packages from  trixie/sid to stable? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2023-10-27 21:10 +0200
                Re: Which Virtual Manager? Was: EASY way to install packages from  trixie/sid to stable? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-28 06:30 +0200
                Re: Which Virtual Manager? Was: EASY way to install packages from  trixie/sid to stable? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2023-10-28 12:40 +0200
                Re: Which Virtual Manager? Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-28 14:20 +0200
              Re: Which Virtual Manager? Was: EASY way to install packages from  trixie/sid to stable? Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2023-10-27 22:20 +0200
  Re: EASY way to install packages from trixie/sid to stable? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-10-26 18:40 +0200
  Re: EASY way to install packages from trixie/sid to stable? exceptbees <exceptbees@proton.me> - 2023-10-26 19:30 +0200
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