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Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

From Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager
Date 2023-10-22 19:40 +0200
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Hello,

On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 08:22:24AM -0400, Pocket wrote:
> On 10/22/23 04:02, Max Nikulin wrote:
> > P.S. I do not see any reason to insist on NetworkManager in the case of
> > a box which role is a DNS server for a local network. ifupdown should be
> > sufficient. There is no need to detect cable plug/unplug events, to
> > switch between connection configurations depending on current location
> > or other circumstances.
> 
> I would normally not use NetworkManager on a server system either, but in
> this case NetworkManager is installed on all the bookworm installation so in
> this case I choose to work with it instead of removing it.

That's a reasonable choice but it is a choice you've made.
NetworkManager isn't any sort of default on Debian; it's a
dependency pulled in by something in your install script, so it's
just another choice you've made even if not explicitly.

There is no compelling reason why you should stick with
NetworkManager unless you want to or it's a hard dependency of
something else. If not then it would be fine to remove it and
achieve the same configuration in a simpler way with ifupdown,
netplan or systemd-networkd directly. A lot of people would consider
that a simpler and therefore more desirable setup if NetworkManager
was not otherwise required.

I realise that all this has been pointed out already in this thread,
but again here you've stated that NetworkManager is some sort of
default for Debian and that the implication as such is that it
should be worked with rather than removed. One is by no means
straying from the "main sequence" of Debian by removing
NetworkManager where no dependency exists.

I'm glad you have worked with it though, in order to find a solution
for the problem you were having, and communicated that with us.

Thanks,
Andy

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Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-21 18:40 +0200
  Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-21 18:50 +0200
    Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-21 19:10 +0200
      Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-21 19:30 +0200
        Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-21 19:40 +0200
          Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-21 20:00 +0200
            Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-21 20:10 +0200
        Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-22 10:10 +0200
          Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-22 14:30 +0200
            Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-22 14:50 +0200
            Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-22 15:20 +0200
            Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-22 18:50 +0200
              Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-22 19:50 +0200
            Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-10-22 19:40 +0200
              Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-22 20:00 +0200
        Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2023-10-22 17:10 +0200
          Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-22 18:30 +0200
            Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2023-10-22 20:40 +0200
            Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-24 18:50 +0200
              Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-24 19:30 +0200
                Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2023-10-24 19:40 +0200
                Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-25 03:10 +0200
                Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-10-25 03:50 +0200
                link-local 169.254.x.y addresses Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-25 18:50 +0200
              Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-10-25 01:40 +0200
        Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 Alessandro Baggi <alessandro.baggi@gmail.com> - 2023-11-01 11:50 +0100
          Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-11-01 12:20 +0100
            Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-11-01 12:40 +0100
              Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-11-01 17:10 +0100
                Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-11-01 17:20 +0100
          Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 yxcv@vienna.at - 2023-11-01 12:20 +0100
            Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-11-01 12:20 +0100
          Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-11-01 12:20 +0100
            Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2023-11-01 15:20 +0100
              Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-11-01 15:40 +0100
                Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 Alessandro Baggi <alessandro.baggi@gmail.com> - 2023-11-01 15:50 +0100
                Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-11-01 16:10 +0100
                Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-11-01 18:50 +0100
                Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-11-02 16:50 +0100
                Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-11-02 18:00 +0100
                Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-11-02 19:00 +0100
                Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-11-03 16:50 +0100
                Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2023-11-01 21:00 +0100
          Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 "Marco M." <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-11-01 12:30 +0100
            Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2023-11-01 13:20 +0100
      Making resolv.conf immutable [was: Bookworm: NetworkManager] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-10-22 07:20 +0200
  Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2023-10-21 20:00 +0200
    Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-21 20:20 +0200
      Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2023-10-21 20:40 +0200
        Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-21 20:50 +0200
          Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Christoph Brinkhaus <c.brinkhaus@t-online.de> - 2023-10-21 21:00 +0200
            Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-21 21:20 +0200
          Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2023-10-21 21:10 +0200
            Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-21 21:40 +0200
              Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-21 21:50 +0200
                Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-21 22:00 +0200
                Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2023-10-21 23:40 +0200
              Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-10-22 07:30 +0200
                Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-22 14:40 +0200
          Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2023-10-21 22:50 +0200
            Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-21 23:00 +0200
              Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-21 23:20 +0200
            Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-21 23:20 +0200
              Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:  NetworkManager Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-22 13:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:  NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-22 14:30 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm: NetworkManager Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-10-22 17:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:  NetworkManager gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-22 19:00 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm: NetworkManager John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-22 20:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-22 20:40 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:  NetworkManager gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-23 00:10 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm: NetworkManager John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-23 00:50 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:  NetworkManager gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-23 02:40 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:  NetworkManager Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-23 02:50 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-23 04:40 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2023-10-23 05:10 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-23 09:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-23 17:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-23 18:00 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-23 04:40 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-10-23 22:40 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-24 02:00 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:  NetworkManager Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2023-10-22 20:40 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm: NetworkManager Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-10-22 21:10 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-22 23:50 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager ghe2001 <ghe2001@protonmail.com> - 2023-10-23 02:00 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-10-23 07:40 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager Christian Groessler <chris@groessler.org> - 2023-10-23 12:40 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-10-25 03:50 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager ghe2001 <ghe2001@protonmail.com> - 2023-10-25 05:50 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was:  Bookworm:NetworkManager "Marco M." <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-10-25 07:40 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-25 11:10 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2023-10-25 13:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks "Marco M." <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-10-25 14:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-25 16:50 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-25 13:30 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks "Marco M." <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-10-25 14:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-10-25 18:30 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2023-10-26 03:30 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-26 03:50 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2023-10-26 04:50 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-10-27 05:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2023-10-27 06:50 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-27 12:10 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 13:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-27 13:30 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-27 14:00 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-27 15:10 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-27 15:40 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2023-10-27 16:10 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-27 16:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 17:50 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-27 16:30 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 18:10 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-29 17:30 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-10-29 19:30 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 03:30 +0100
                Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was: Domain name  to use on home networks Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-27 16:20 +0200
                Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was: Domain nameto  use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 18:10 +0200
                Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was: Domain nameto  use on home networks Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-29 17:10 +0100
                Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was: Domain  nametouse on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-29 18:10 +0100
                Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was: Domain  nametouse on home networks Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-31 04:20 +0100
                Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was: Domain nametouse  on home networks The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2023-10-31 10:20 +0100
                Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was: Domain  nametouseon home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-31 15:30 +0100
                Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was:  Domainnametouse on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-31 15:30 +0100
                Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was:  Domainnametouse on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-31 17:40 +0100
                Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was:  Domainnametouse on home networks Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2023-11-01 22:10 +0100
                Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was:Domainnametouse  on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-11-02 00:30 +0100
                Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian;  was:Domainnametouse on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-11-02 00:40 +0100
                Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian;was:Domainnametouse  on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-11-02 01:20 +0100
                Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian;was:Domainnametouse  on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-11-02 01:40 +0100
                Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian;was:Domainnametouse  on home networks Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-11-02 02:20 +0100
                Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian;  was:Domainnametouse on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-11-02 00:40 +0100
                Re: report a Debian bug (was: Changing host name and dom...) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2023-11-02 01:00 +0100
                Re: report a Debian bug gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-11-02 02:40 +0100
                Re: report a Debian bug David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2023-11-02 06:50 +0100
                Re: report a Debian bug gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-11-02 09:10 +0100
                Re: report a Debian bug David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2023-11-02 22:20 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 17:30 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-27 17:50 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 18:40 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-27 18:50 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-27 19:10 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-27 19:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-27 14:00 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 17:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-27 17:50 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 18:30 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 18:50 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-27 19:30 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-10-29 15:30 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-29 16:30 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-29 17:00 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-29 17:30 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-29 18:10 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-29 19:20 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-29 19:40 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 03:20 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 09:00 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Timothy M Butterworth <timothy.m.butterworth@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 10:20 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 17:10 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-30 17:20 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-30 17:50 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 18:30 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-30 18:40 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-30 17:50 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 18:10 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-30 18:30 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 18:40 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-30 18:30 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 18:40 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 17:50 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-30 18:40 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 19:40 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2023-10-30 19:40 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-30 19:50 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-30 22:10 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 22:40 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2023-10-31 02:40 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-31 15:10 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-31 04:10 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 19:50 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-31 04:00 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-30 13:20 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-30 13:30 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-30 13:30 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-30 13:40 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 17:40 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 17:20 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 16:00 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 17:40 +0100
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 16:40 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks "Marco M." <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-10-27 16:50 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 18:10 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks "Marco M." <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-10-27 21:30 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-27 16:50 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 18:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-27 18:30 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-27 19:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-27 20:00 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-27 20:10 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-27 21:00 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2023-10-27 21:10 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-10-28 00:50 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-28 07:40 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-10-27 16:40 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-26 10:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks "Marco M." <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-10-26 10:40 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-26 11:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-10-26 11:10 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-26 11:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-27 17:30 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks "Marco M." <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-10-26 10:30 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-10-25 22:10 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-10-26 01:30 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager jeremy ardley <jeremy.ardley@gmail.com> - 2023-10-26 02:00 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2023-10-26 02:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-10-27 05:30 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager ghe2001 <ghe2001@protonmail.com> - 2023-10-23 18:00 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-23 04:50 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-23 18:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-23 20:10 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2023-10-23 20:30 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-23 23:40 +0200
              Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2023-10-22 14:50 +0200
                Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-22 14:50 +0200
                Re: example.org and other RFC 2606 domains; was: Bookworm:  NetworkManager Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-22 15:20 +0200
                Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2023-10-22 17:00 +0200
              Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2023-10-22 18:20 +0200
                Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-22 19:50 +0200
      Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-21 20:40 +0200
        Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-21 20:50 +0200
  Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-21 22:30 +0200
    Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2023-10-21 22:40 +0200
    Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2023-10-22 17:30 +0200
      Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-10-22 17:30 +0200
        Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2023-10-22 17:50 +0200
          Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-25 19:00 +0200
        Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-22 19:40 +0200
      Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-22 19:20 +0200
        Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-22 19:50 +0200
        Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2023-10-23 00:40 +0200
          Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-23 01:20 +0200
            Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2023-10-23 19:10 +0200
          Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-10-23 22:30 +0200
            Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2023-10-27 21:40 +0200
  Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-22 02:30 +0200

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