Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World"

From	Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World"
Date	2023-09-24 19:30 +0200
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On Sun, Sep 24, 2023 at 09:27:36AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote:
> Every time I set up a new host, I have to jump through the hoops trying to
> get the same PATH for ordinary users as well as root, regardless of how
> they log in. Reading the man pages doesn't help my old brain with all the
> caveats.
> 
> Can anyone offer a foolproof, programmatic solution to my conumdrum?

Nope.  There is no simple, foolproof, login-method-agnostic solution.

The only login-method-agnostic tool available to you is pam_env and
this triggers too early.  You can set a PATH that way, but then the
login shell, or the desktop environment, takes over and overwrites
the PATH.

systemd offers nothing which addresses this either.  It only has things
that LOOK like they might work, but then they turn out to do nothing
(they are not used by logins).  That's a dead end.

So, at the end of the day, you're right back where you started.  All
environment customizations are unique to the login method and the
shell and the desktop environment of the individual system and user.

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PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> - 2023-09-24 16:30 +0200
  Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> - 2023-09-24 16:50 +0200
    Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-09-24 20:40 +0200
    Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" Michel Verdier <mv524@free.fr> - 2023-09-24 20:40 +0200
  Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-09-24 19:30 +0200
  Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2023-09-24 23:30 +0200
    Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> - 2023-09-24 23:50 +0200
      Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-09-25 00:10 +0200
        Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> - 2023-09-25 00:30 +0200
          Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> - 2023-09-25 13:10 +0200
            Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> - 2023-09-25 16:00 +0200
              Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> - 2023-09-25 16:50 +0200
                Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-09-25 17:10 +0200
                Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> - 2023-09-26 22:40 +0200
                Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-09-26 23:10 +0200
              Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-09-25 18:20 +0200
                Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> - 2023-09-26 16:10 +0200
                Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-09-26 16:30 +0200
                Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> - 2023-09-27 01:20 +0200
                Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> - 2023-09-27 01:40 +0200
                Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> - 2023-09-27 03:20 +0200
        Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-09-25 17:30 +0200
  Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> - 2023-10-27 17:00 +0200
    Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2023-10-27 19:00 +0200
      Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-10-27 19:00 +0200
        Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2023-10-27 20:50 +0200
          Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-27 21:00 +0200
            Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-27 23:00 +0200
            Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-10-28 06:40 +0200
              Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2023-10-28 07:10 +0200
          Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-10-28 06:30 +0200
            Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-10-29 15:30 +0100
  Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> - 2023-11-02 22:40 +0100
    Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-11-03 06:50 +0100

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