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Re: Releasing linux/6.1.52-1 bookworm-security update without armel build, Image size problems

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Hi Salvatore,

On 09-09-2023 10:15, Salvatore Bonaccorso wrote:
> but should have been support for armel been
> dropped earlier and should we do it for trixie

The kernel for armel went over some hardware limits before (I was 
affected with my NAS, where I couldn't upgrade the kernel to bullseye as 
documented in the release notes [1]). Is the current situation reaching 
the limit for all armel devices, or "just" for some and are the others 
probably fine for some years to come?

If we're now reaching the final limit and if it was foreseeable that we 
would reach that limit, then yes it would have made sense to drop armel 
*before* the bookworm release, but alas. If the kernel team can't 
support the kernel on armel, than armel shouldn't be a release 
architecture for trixie. If it's only some devices, than we "just" need 
to communicate that clearly.

I don't have a clear advice for the current situation in security and 
the next point release, let's hope you can stretch the situation a bit 
longer. I recall that the kernel package has safety checks in place and 
refuses to *try* to install the kernel if it doesn't fit on the 
hardware. That means that you don't cripple the hardware of affected 
people, but "merely" can't give them security support? I guess it would 
be possible (as long as support lasts; no LTS support) for effected 
systems to run the security supported bullseye kernel.

Paul

[1] 
https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/armel/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#no-longer-supported-hardware

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Re: Releasing linux/6.1.52-1 bookworm-security update without armel  build, Image size problems Paul Gevers <elbrus@debian.org> - 2023-09-09 11:20 +0200
  Re: Releasing linux/6.1.52-1 bookworm-security update without armel  build, Image size problems Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2023-09-09 12:10 +0200
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