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Re: counting commas

From Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: counting commas
Date 2024-01-20 18:30 +0100
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On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 05:09:58PM -0000, Curt wrote:
> On 2024-01-19, David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Fri 19 Jan 2024 at 17:25:10 (+0000), debian-user@howorth.org.uk wrote:
> >> Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> wrote:
> >> 
> >> > I won, and you lost
> >> 
> >> There shouldn't be a comma in that sentence, in English. There is in
> >> the closely related expression "I won, you lost."
> >
> > That's rather proscriptive. "I won and you lost." and
> > "I won, and you lost." are two different sentences.
> >
> 
> AFAIK, "you lost" is an independent clause and should be separated from
> the independent clause that precedes it with a comma before the
> coordinating conjunction.

Regardless of which grammar rules are right, wrong, or optional, the point
of this is that parsing natural language text is *stupidly difficult*.
A person who has to ask why "grep -c" doesn't count the number of commas
in a single line of text probably isn't able to take on this quest.

Any serious inquiries about natural language parsing should be directed
to an appropriate artificial intelligence mailing list instead of this one.

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counting commas fxkl47BF@protonmail.com - 2024-01-19 08:20 +0100
  Re: counting commas John Crawley <john@bunsenlabs.org> - 2024-01-19 08:30 +0100
  Re: counting commas <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-19 09:10 +0100
  Re: counting commas "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2024-01-19 09:30 +0100
    Re: counting commas Michael Grant <mgrant@grant.org> - 2024-01-19 12:20 +0100
    Re: counting commas Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-01-19 13:40 +0100
      Re: counting commas "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2024-01-19 16:30 +0100
        Re: counting commas fxkl47BF@protonmail.com - 2024-01-19 16:40 +0100
          Re: counting commas Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-01-19 17:50 +0100
            Re: counting commas fxkl47BF@protonmail.com - 2024-01-19 18:30 +0100
            Re: counting commas debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2024-01-19 18:30 +0100
              Re: counting commas John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2024-01-19 21:10 +0100
                Re: counting commas Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2024-01-20 04:00 +0100
                Re: counting commas Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2024-01-20 05:00 +0100
              Re: counting commas David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-01-20 00:10 +0100
                Re: counting commas Cindy Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2024-01-20 01:10 +0100
                Re: counting commas Peter Hillier-Brook <phb@hbsys.plus.com> - 2024-01-20 01:10 +0100
                Re: counting commas Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2024-01-20 18:20 +0100
                Re: counting commas Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-01-20 18:30 +0100
                Re: counting commas fxkl47BF@protonmail.com - 2024-01-20 18:40 +0100
                Re: counting commas Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2024-01-20 18:40 +0100
                Re: counting commas David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-01-20 21:10 +0100
        Re: counting commas Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2024-01-20 03:50 +0100
          Re: counting commas gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-20 06:50 +0100
          Re: counting commas gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-20 07:00 +0100
          Re: counting commas "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2024-01-20 21:40 +0100
            Re: counting commas gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-20 22:10 +0100
            Re: counting commas John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2024-01-21 01:10 +0100
              Re: counting commas gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-21 01:20 +0100
                Re: counting commas John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2024-01-21 01:30 +0100
                Re: counting commas gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-21 02:10 +0100

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