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Re: Ability to further support 32bit architectures

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Hi,

Am 13.01.24 um 13:59 schrieb rhys:
> No.
>
> You are AGAIN assuming what I am talking about.
Maybe because of how you write...
> I know the difference between a 32-bit processor and a 64-bit processor.

Obviously you don't. Or at least are not aware about consequences.


Since you still offer 32bit machines of which Debian has enough of. (64 
bit kernel probably but it doesn't matter) where it does not matter at all.


You ignore the stated fact in this thread that on a 32bit processor one 
process can't get more than 3GB or even less of RAM (regardless of what 
memory extension stuff exists).

In  https://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2024/01/msg00191.html (where 
the quoting is a problem, one doesn't know what is yours and what not) 
you ignored what YunQiang said in the post you replied to:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2024/01/msg00189.html

Quoting again just for you:

"[...] It is about some limitation of 32bit.
2 examples for it:
    1. if we use 32bit value for time, it will overflow in 2038, then
your time will be shown as 1900.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem
    2. A single process (or maybe APP, not precisely), can only use UP
to 4GiB RAM.
        In fact on most system the value is less than 4GiB:
           on intel32, it is 3GiB
           on mips32, it is 2GiB
        But currently, it is not enough, for example, when we build a
big APP, it will need much more RAM.
        The RAM does install in your Rack, but you can NOT use it.
       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_GB_barrier

"

And THAT (2.) is the problem here for linking big applications/compile 
units. Not the lack of machines.

And that is a limitation of *the architecture*.

Putting more "32bit machines" on it do not change anything of that 
except that there were more machines which cannot build big stuff.


Regards,


Rene

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Ability to further support 32bit architectures Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2024-01-11 10:50 +0100
  Re: Ability to further support 32bit architectures Dimitri John Ledkov <dimitri.ledkov@canonical.com> - 2024-01-11 10:50 +0100
    Re: Ability to further support 32bit architectures Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2024-01-11 11:50 +0100
      Re: Ability to further support 32bit architectures Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2024-01-11 12:50 +0100
        Re: Ability to further support 32bit architectures Aurelien Jarno <aurel32@debian.org> - 2024-01-11 18:40 +0100
          Re: Ability to further support 32bit architectures Aurelien Jarno <aurel32@debian.org> - 2024-01-13 19:50 +0100
      Re: Ability to further support 32bit architectures Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2024-01-11 17:10 +0100
        Re: Ability to further support 32bit architectures YunQiang Su <wzssyqa@gmail.com> - 2024-01-12 17:20 +0100
          Re: Ability to further support 32bit architectures Alan Corey <alan01346@gmail.com> - 2024-01-12 19:30 +0100
            Re: Ability to further support 32bit architectures rhys <rhys@neoquasar.org> - 2024-01-13 04:50 +0100
              Re: Ability to further support 32bit architectures YunQiang Su <wzssyqa@gmail.com> - 2024-01-13 04:50 +0100
                Re: Ability to further support 32bit architectures rhys <rhys@neoquasar.org> - 2024-01-13 14:20 +0100
                Re: Ability to further support 32bit architectures Rene Engelhard <rene@debian.org> - 2024-01-13 17:00 +0100
                Re: Offer to make a native 32-bit system avaiable rhys <rhys@neoquasar.org> - 2024-01-13 20:20 +0100
                Re: Offer to make a native 32-bit system avaiable Dimitri John Ledkov <dimitri.ledkov@canonical.com> - 2024-01-13 21:10 +0100
              Re: Ability to further support 32bit architectures rhys <rhys@neoquasar.org> - 2024-01-13 14:30 +0100
  Re: Ability to further support 32bit architectures Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2024-01-11 11:50 +0100

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